I hope you guys are right.

I had a frightening thought the other day.

There are no conspiracies and George Bush is really the top dog and in control.

I had a frightening thought the other day. There are no conspiracies and George Bush is really the top dog and in control.

Haha.. You know.. that's probably the scariest conspiracy ever. The conspiracy theory that there is no conspiracy theory and that G. Bush is actually in charge.

Maybe I should clarify the Israel part a bit... Zionism is the front behind which the Illuminati hide. It is their "religion" if you would call it that. I firmly believe that the holocaust didn't happen exactly as we are told. Many people died, not just jews, and it was because the Allies bombed the crap out of Germany's supply routes, thus leaving the prisoner of war camps without food or supplies. This was thoroughly documented by the Red Cross at that time. As far as burning bodies, yes they were cremated upon dying because there was just no room for burial. There was also a "ground soak" factor which meant that they couldn't dig too deep for the purpose of making a mass grave. Lots of people died, not just jews, and it wasn't genocide, unless you say that it was on the part of the Allies with the bombings. The Illuminati tried to establish Israel during WW I and obviously failed. So then we had to have WW II, and that finally did it. Israel is the nexxus of all that is evil and the hub for the Illuminati plan. I guess to really understand it all you would first have to ask yourself if you believe in God and Satan, because that is truly what this is all about, a battle for our souls. Not to stray off the main subject but look at the Israeli army, the IDF... their motto is by deception we shall wage war... then think of Sept. 11... then think of one of Satan's main titles... the great Deceiver. I could go on and on but the point is moot because it seems to fall on deaf ears, and I don't mean on this forum.
This is our world people, and we need to take it back from those who don't want us to have it. The Corporations run our government.... always remember that and to follow the money.

Theory: Twinkies are made from ground up toenail clippings. Supporting evidence: Have you ever tasted one?

A Twinkie or a toenail clipping?

#6 -- I find it frightening if you actually believe that, I hope you're just putting that up there for fun. Sadly a lot of people do believe theories like that and deny the holocaust either completely or partially.

Your 'bombed supply lines = dead prisoners' equation doesn't write-off why the concentration camps existed in the first place. It doesn't explain the gas chambers. The only reason anybody sent to a concentration camp survived long enough to start starving, supply-lines or no, was so that those 'lucky' prisoners could be used for slave labor instead of their flesh turned to soap and their hair turned into shoelaces.

It's true the Jews were not the only group targetted, everyone from homosexuals to communists to gypsies and the list goes on were put on the chopping block. Nobody's denying that. More attention could be placed on the atrocities created by Stalin, more attention could be placed on the atrocities commited by Imperial Japan, as in those cases many perpetrators got off scot-free.. but nobody's DENYING those 'other' holocausts, and wouldn't every other genocide take away from the 'capital' this 'vast zionist conspiracy' would gain? Doesn't every new genocide take away from any sympathy that the holocaust would generate? If the holocaust was a P.R. stunt, it would require vast resources to pull the wool over our eyes, resources that could've kept the Khmer Rouge, and numerous genocides in Africa, out of the headlines.

Every 'holocaust conspiracy' theory I've ever heard seems to ignore that there was, and is, a world-wide thread of anti-semitism. Anti-semitism was very prevalent in the U.S., you'd especially expect it among the young men that swelled the ranks of our military. Eugenics also had a foothold in the U.S. So, to believe the holocaust never happened, you have to believe that everyone who came across evidence of the holocaust not only lacked any anti-semitism but was 'pro-zion'. It doesn't make sense to me.

If there's any conspiracy about the formation of Israel, it can be traced back to fundamentalist christianity and the belief that the Jews have to reclaim certain holy lands in order to set the stage for the apocalypse. Here's a conspiracy theory of my own: many conservative Christians CANNOT FREAKING WAIT for The Apocalypse, and will do everything in their power to force it. Mostly, destroying the rainforests, the ozone layer, overpopulating the world so much that The Lord must have the trumpets blowed and the scrolls unrolled or whatever.. after all, if we drive ourselves to extinction, then it's obviously God that's screwed up, and that just can't happen. Uh huh.

But the real-real reason I think Israel needs to exist (it might not be THE reason)? Because every century or so, some dictator or mob or whatever has decided to round up the Jews in their country, or city, or whatever and kill them. Some nation has to exist on this earth, with a sovereign military and an intelligence service, that =gives a damn= about that.

I have no faith that, had the outside world known everything about the Holocaust while it was happening, but that Germany had not invaded anybody.. that anybody would've done jack squat. The U.S. sure as hell would've stayed out, we would've stayed out had we not been directly attacked as it turned out anyway. Politicians are populists, and populism is cowardly... such cowardice is bi-partisan, by the way.

That's another conspiracy theory. The parties are the same on everything that matters.

Ok, here's mine: All consipracy theroys were lies maed up by Communists to make us untrusting of our government so a cultural insurection aand/or a military invasion easier.

Remember folks.. All these is just theories. Mainly for the purpose of entertainment. I dont' deny there probably is a conspiracy that goes on behind our back. But, in the end, there really is nothing we can do about it. The Powers-That-Be have been in control for thousands of years, with that kind of grip on power, who's to stop them.

Here's a new conspiracy theory. We are all not real. What we consider the universe is just a complicated video game. God is a little kid playing Sim Universe and we're all just sims.

"Make the gaestopo look like tree-hugging girl scouts"?!?!?! What grade did you get in History class, just out of curiosity?

Um, I usually defend the Human Gene Pool. But some in this thread are making that difficult.

But anyways.. American revolution was a revolution by the masons from the Illuminati.

Freedom, prosperity, and self governence was a fortunate by product.

Seriously though, how has this thread srvived this long with out being closed?

Seriously though, how has this thread srvived this long with out being closed? Must be a conspiracy...

Haha.. A conspiracy on conspiracy unto itself. Let's keep this going and see how long we can keep it up.

Here's a new conspiracy theory.

The Moon landing conspiracy was a conspiracy by the Greys so we would undermine NASA. Humanity in space is a threat to their plans on invading us on 2012. Their plan has worked. We were suppose to be in space by now and wear shiny space suits which would make us immune to their weapon. Now, we are doomed.

I mean, Utopia doesn't sound that bad.

Yeah, but who's idea of Utopia? I thought this thread was just to have a little fun but since some people seem to be taking it a little seriously... I will bow out on this one.