that is what i am saying, an extremely mobile race with like, one overall unit that produces units, but still needs planets, for expample, say you play this faction, you would start out with one planet just like the rest, and that one planet contains two con drones but no factory, the con drones build the first factory free, and then that factory builds the first cap free, however the factory does not become moblie until reasearch is done, the faction would still need planets to construct their structures on, only their military is on the move.  allowing for a more mobile military  force.  and say, this faction would lose one of thier capital classes, probably the type such as the donov b cruiser for the tec, or the marauder as the vassari, to be replaced by the mobile factory.

I cannot believe I have read every single reply, 577 of em, or 24 pages, but I wanted to make sure I got everything up to date.

Great work man, but how is it possible for organic thingys (at least, carbon based) to generate multimillion degree plasma? Organic systems have an advantage vs mechanical in auto-regeneration, and efficiency, but not in sheer power.

Actually, if you want, I can flood you with a wall of sci-fi background explaining everything from the abovementioned energy problem, to the wormhole generation (just don't expect it to be included in any physics handbooks anytime soon ).

For now, suffice to say that the Xin ships are not entirely organic. Their biological proto-forms are matured withing gigantic subterranean caves which are excavated down on the planet and then filled with water. The caverns are completely isolated from the athmosphere and are kept within the layers of crust which are most suited for their existence. And even though there are some methods of temperature regulation involving massive geothermal capillary systems, the proto-forms themselves are incredibly tough and do not mind the extreme conditions of their habitats. After all, they have been designed to withstand the most hostile environment possible - long term exposure to vacuum of space, with all the perks like extreme temperature variations and radiation levels that encompany it.

After they mature, they are surgically fitted with integrated mechanical systems. For example, their energy comes from a gravity tidal wave oscillator (a mini-black hole container), their plasma weapons are also mechanical in nature, as is most of the outer coating of their hulls.

So basically, you are looking at big huge cyborg ships.

So by purchase, you mean modular construction?  Similar to Universe at War and the Hierarchy walkers?  That game was awesome (b/c of walkers, mostly), and people (me included) would play it more except for:

1. G4WL: Yes, G4WL = phail, even with all features now free.  Especially because every tiny little thing in an update/released tools has to be approved by Microsoft, which has made every single update for UaW extremly late and is now delaying the mod tools.

2. No mods: This is really killing Universe at War.  I mean the freaking modding forums were hidden from normal members, and only forum admins and mods can access them.

Add in the fact that patches take 5x longer than they should to be released, and UaW = fail.

Yeah, I know there's no modular construction in Sins.  TBH, if you could modify your ships/structures on-the-fly, it would definitely be cool.  And somewhat unbalancing as specific ships wouldn't really be need that much.

No, sorry.  Sins does not allow animated model parts.  So no turrets.  Which really sucks.

Well guess its better that way..Ill go back to good old cannons ! Long live the classics!

That's the whole point..my guns MUST be axed in a certain place (the ship won't contain missile launchers)...but it would have looked cool if the turrets would have turned before firing ! The last seconds before a huge salvo blows up the hull of a vessel!

Well, from a design point of view, such a weapon is lacking in my opinion. Mind you, so are "straight beams" done improperly. The thing with beam weapons is that they are supposed to give off an impression of raw power. They should *crackle*. Break things in half, melt faces, that sort of thing. And to do that, they need to be fast and they need to connect in a straight line. If they curve, we instinctively reduce the amount of impact they can have.

However, missiles with bright trails are another matter. Physical or energy missiles, it doesn't matter, and I think that's the weapon you're talking about. Now, the Xin are somewhat scarce with missiles, but the Clans Remnant should have a lot of that... from small point defense rockets to big nukes.

[edit] i also had one last question and then ill shut up... will the xin have capitals like the vanilla versions, or would they have the titan ship take up all their capitals in one and not have utility, carrier, and the other stuff caps.

Wow.  Clans Remnant vs. Xin will be totally freaking awesome.

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And good job on not having a "preview" button. Hope this works.

wait, is that thing the battleship cap.??