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KzintiPatriarch

Join Date 05/2007

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Nuke the gate.

Still using nukes? How primitive!

Sentient species taste better...

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Nuke the gate.Still using nukes? How primitive!

I tend to agree... The Beast will build a Jumpgate It'll restrict travel within the wormhole to those whom are given permission to enter.

okay here's what i was trying to say
The dark energy caused by the explosion of Beast + DNA from infected members of the different empires + Beast DNA= Realm of Despair.

This equaltion is wrong... the Beast were never destroyed. even now some reminantes live on the fringes of space. and for a realm of that size I'd have to say that it's got more chance of been related to the Elder races.

They're coming to the celebration of our new alliance. We will serve many beast/xionians, geckos, and human-roasts for everyone to enjoy! To bad the Autobots arent edible...

If you can eat us then you can eat Autobots... Robotic remember. not to meantion Beast are toxic to flesh. I thought we agreed to co-exist? Do you wish to break that treaty? your empire was severly weaken by the other Beast faction during the war. We could help by supplying you with asteriod building materials?

As you know Everflyer now leader of the new Beast race had all his worlds destroyed in the war of the Beast and so needs a new planet his race can not grow while they are forced to live in space and the Autobots have discovered that 2 planets orbiting an unnamed star have become habitable so we will be voting on whether those new planets will be given to Everflyer please vote...
Yes.
No.

Have your votes in by 9AM London time

The Autobots vote Yes

The beast Vote no. We can't use planets, they are to restricting. We thrive in space. we are pure born Space begins. we build, harvest, live and die in space. the stars are our home and nothing will take that from us. we don't even require sustinance or air.

Announcing the formation of the official Autobot alliance council each member of the alliance has a representative on the council current members as seen below......

sorry but we took on a new logo. that is the enemy beast logo which we disowned.

This is our Logo, to honor both the Beast and The Xionian that Co-exist with it.
This is our Race Logo:

And this is my ship... the one i chose to merge with.
It's our Race Image:

Actually that Teal logo thing is actually the icon picture for a game I made. I just threw on a Beast Logo over the top.

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The beast Vote no. We can't use planets, they are to restricting. We thrive in space. we are pure born Space begins. we build, harvest, live and die in space. the stars are our home and nothing will take that from us. we don't even require sustinance or air.

If giving the beast those new worlds would not be in there best interest then we will cancel voting on this matter

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Freeman43

Join Date 11/2007

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Ok good because we scanned the planet it had a post-industrial civilian but the second planet dose not. Starfleet command has informed me that we will be placing a science colony there, so that sector is now under Confederation rule and we will protect the pre-warp civilian from out side interference.

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Freeman43

Join Date 11/2007

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I decree that a prime directive be put in place for all alliance party members.
The prime directive will state that we should not interfere nor make first contact with any pre-warp or pre-hyperdrive cavitations.
The confederation votes yes

What dose the Autobots,the Xionian Beasts,and the Geckodons, say.

the votes will close at 4/30 18:00:00 and the law will be stated.

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I decree that a prime directive be put in place for all alliance party members. The prime directive will state that we should not interfere nor make first contact with any pre-warp or pre-hyperdrive cavitations.The confederation votes yes What dose the Autobots,the Xionian Beasts,and the Geckodons, say.the votes will close at 4/30 18:00:00 and the law will be stated.

The Beast Vote... no... We have our own agenda. depending on situations we decide how to proceed with pre-space races. Once we found a race growing an extremely hostile alien race. we had to help them eliminate it. Our rules insure MAXIMUM advantage. Our Rules are like the universe in which we roam freely, the Universe changes so do our rules.

Sorry but We just don't see the logic in this. Am i correct in assuming the autobots did interfer with the humans because of the all-spark cube? you even live with humans now for neutral advantage. Just because they are pre-space, doesn't mean they should be kept in the dark.

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Jump gate has been secured. We are monitoring all income traffic through the Wormhole. We do let ships through from the Realm, we arn't bent on locking them up. Just not invasion fleets from either side may enter on pain of Infestation DURING travel... in otherwords you enter one end clean, come out Infested if you enter without permission. This goes for everyone, No More Wars with the Realm of dispair people. Kzinti you have a welcoming party going towards your homeplanet from your alter race.

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You know that Kzinti Planetary Sheild you were concerned about? Now Presenting...

The Infested Kzinti Panet Shield
Renamed 'Collective Mind', It is the Beast's Only true planet.

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i have a better idea we will pass the law that we do not interfere with pre-warp civilizations however if there is a race that one of you feels it is nessersery to interfere with they must bring the subject before the council and if the reason for interfering is valid it shell be put to a vote.

Federation Prime Directive NO.

Autobot Prime Directive YES.

I hope this will satisfy both Everflyer and freeman43

Voting will stop at 12pm

By the way Autobots coming into contact with humans was unavoidable unless you would rather the Deceptercons take over the galaxy.

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Freeman43

Join Date 11/2007

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I decree that a prime directive be put in place for all alliance party members. The prime directive will state that we should not interfere nor make first contact with any pre-warp or pre-hyperdrive cavitations.The confederation votes yes What dose the Autobots,the Xionian Beasts,and the Geckodons, say.the votes will close at 4/30 18:00:00 and the law will be stated.The Beast Vote... no... We have our own agenda. depending on situations we decide how to proceed with pre-space races. Once we found a race growing an extremely hostile alien race. we had to help them eliminate it. Our rules insure MAXIMUM advantage. Our Rules are like the universe in which we roam freely, the Universe changes so do our rules.Sorry but We just don't see the logic in this. Am i correct in assuming the autobots did interfer with the humans because of the all-spark cube? you even live with humans now for neutral advantage. Just because they are pre-space, doesn't mean they should be kept in the dark.

That not true the Autobot comes from a different reallity. The confederation discovered Warp drive and then first contact was made with the vulcans after WWIII. But the directive dosent just go for minor civis. it goes to all races. For example the U.S.S Voyager made contact with many warp civis in the delta Quadrant but there tech were much lower then ours. but thanks to the prime directive they got out of there and got back home, with out disrupting the power struggle there. And when the federation was just forming we dint have the prime directive and we destroyed a minor civi when first contact was made to early. You may not see the logic in this. But where not going to be here forever its up to the minors to progress naturally and take are spots. You may be a machine but you have a heart at least. Just think about it what would you think if a photon torpedo came out of the blue and destroyed your home and you family, and you dident have a defence agents it and you where just hope less as they come down and clam you as there slaves or just destroy the whole enterer planet for no resin at all. Do you wish to be like the Dread Lords or the Kzinti?
we can help them become grate civilization, when the time comes of course. I know your good why do all of this... Why...

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Freeman43

Join Date 11/2007

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[quote]i have a better idea we will pass the law that we do not interfere with pre-warp civilizations however if there is a race that one of you feels it is nessersery to interfere with they must bring the subject before the council and if the reason for interfering is valid it shell be put to a vote.Federation Prime Directive NO.Autobot Prime Directive YES.I hope this will satisfy both Everflyer and freeman43Voting will stop at 12pm.[quote]

ok i agree to the Autobot's Prime Directive
i vote Yes

By the way Autobots coming into contact with humans was unavoidable unless you would rather the Deceptercons take over the galaxy.

thats your reality the confederation is more uneasier then yours. If you wish to see the full hestory and more go to the memory-alpha data banks. WWW Link

and for ships in the 23ed centery and below go to the starfleet-museum WWW Link

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The Tyranny of Courruption is aiming it's efforts at the Raiders we should help the Raiders and my vote is no.

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The dark energy caused by the explosion of Beast + DNA from infected members of the different empires + Beast DNA= Realm of Despair.This equaltion is wrong... the Beast were never destroyed. even now some reminantes live on the fringes of space. and for a realm of that size I'd have to say that it's got more chance of been related to the Elder races.

We were wrong my freind here is what really happened, you see when the Beast infeced you, it also gave off an ivisible wave of dark energy that caused a small empty pocket universe to form, then a second wave that hit our ships thus coppying bits of our people's memories and so the memeories were carried onto the wave which was sent to the pocket universe, the dark energy modified everything and the Realm of Dispair, so the Realm empires are our dopplegangers.

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I don't understand? I'm neither old enough nor posses the power to cast magic... I do not fit into the equation either. Infact the beast have no knowleadge of magic nor desire it. it just isn't possible the beast are responsible.

i have a better idea we will pass the law that we do not interfere with pre-warp civilizations however if there is a race that one of you feels it is nessersery to interfere with they must bring the subject before the council and if the reason for interfering is valid it shell be put to a vote.

Federation Prime Directive NO.

Autobot Prime Directive YES.

I hope this will satisfy both Everflyer and freeman43

Voting will stop at 12pm

By the way Autobots coming into contact with humans was unavoidable unless you would rather the Deceptercons take over the galaxy.

would have like to see the Deceptercons try.

As for this new... Directive. We do not agree with it... but we will honor our alliegence with you and submit to the new rule... reluctantly.

The Tyranny of Courruption is aiming it's efforts at the Raiders we should help the Raiders and my vote is no.

I'd like to see the Tyranny of Courruption try a stunt like that again. At 0230 hours 354 ships entered the Rift WITHOUT Beast permission to enter through. this Invation force was submitted to High intensity Beast Partical cloud we shot into the rift. When they emerged from the other side they where infested. all ships belong to us now. word has been sent to their government of this event and a stern warning that if they try it again it will only yeild similar results.

The Rift must now under go maintainance to clear the remaining particals from inside. all travel between the 2 realms is suspended until further notice. sorry if trade routes and such will be affected. we do have a Beast Outpost setup for you to wait out the repairs.

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I decree that a prime directive be put in place for all alliance party members. The prime directive will state that we should not interfere nor make first contact with any pre-warp or pre-hyperdrive cavitations.The confederation votes yes What dose the Autobots,the Xionian Beasts,and the Geckodons, say.the votes will close at 4/30 18:00:00 and the law will be stated.The Beast Vote... no... We have our own agenda. depending on situations we decide how to proceed with pre-space races. Once we found a race growing an extremely hostile alien race. we had to help them eliminate it. Our rules insure MAXIMUM advantage. Our Rules are like the universe in which we roam freely, the Universe changes so do our rules.Sorry but We just don't see the logic in this. Am i correct in assuming the autobots did interfer with the humans because of the all-spark cube? you even live with humans now for neutral advantage. Just because they are pre-space, doesn't mean they should be kept in the dark.That not true the Autobot comes from a different reallity. The confederation discovered Warp drive and then first contact was made with the vulcans after WWIII. But the directive dosent just go for minor civis. it goes to all races. For example the U.S.S Voyager made contact with many warp civis in the delta Quadrant but there tech were much lower then ours. but thanks to the prime directive they got out of there and got back home, with out disrupting the power struggle there. And when the federation was just forming we dint have the prime directive and we destroyed a minor civi when first contact was made to early. You may not see the logic in this. But where not going to be here forever its up to the minors to progress naturally and take are spots. You may be a machine but you have a heart at least. Just think about it what would you think if a photon torpedo came out of the blue and destroyed your home and you family, and you dident have a defence agents it and you where just hope less as they come down and clam you as there slaves or just destroy the whole enterer planet for no resin at all. Do you wish to be like the Dread Lords or the Kzinti?we can help them become grate civilization, when the time comes of course. I know your good why do all of this... Why...

How dare you indecate that we would be so cruel as to fire upon a youngly race. We are Nothing like the Dread lords. not even the Kzinti have been so cruel. We have already made first contact with many pre-space races and now co-exist with them peacefully. they have accomplished so much and have grown-up with the fear of invation or the Beast. This is why we are reluctant to give up contact with younger races. Not only do they benifit but we do too. For each race has something new to add to the continum, we discover and learn history, beliefs, life style and other such things. we help guide them in the right direction to bring up the next Generation of races into the universe, teaching them to accept others for who they are. this will mean when our generation dies they will carry on that knowleadge and bring the universe into a lasting peace. but you cannot understand what we are trying to do. Dispite our evil name we good at heart. Just like young infantes these young races need someone to look after them till they can stand on their own feet and take the first few step themselves, Into space. Then we can watch as they interact and use everything we taught them in spacial dimplomacy. Since I became leader of the beast I have help 14 races and we now co-exist in peace.... your telling me now I must leave them to fend for themselves in the harsh galaxy when they are not ready. you are forgetting the Arnor also want this. they wanted to help young races, which includes your race, live in peace. but that dream has now died... due to logic, that great galactic mistake.

... I see what we must do... break away. I am sorry but the Beast have now decided that in the interest of the galaxy we are breaking away from the allied. We are not at war, we are still in peace. but in order to raise the next generation of races to accept eachother we must intervein early. Protect them and teach them. you will not stop us.

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How dare you indecate that we would be so cruel as to fire upon a youngly race. We are Nothing like the Dread lords. not even the Kzinti have been so cruel. We have already made first contact with many pre-space races and now co-exist with them peacefully. they have accomplished so much and have grown-up with the fear of invation or the Beast. This is why we are reluctant to give up contact with younger races. Not only do they benifit but we do too. For each race has something new to add to the continum, we discover and learn history, beliefs, life style and other such things. we help guide them in the right direction to bring up the next Generation of races into the universe, teaching them to accept others for who they are. this will mean when our generation dies they will carry on that knowleadge and bring the universe into a lasting peace. but you cannot understand what we are trying to do. Dispite our evil name we good at heart. Just like young infantes these young races need someone to look after them till they can stand on their own feet and take the first few step themselves, Into space. Then we can watch as they interact and use everything we taught them in spacial dimplomacy. Since I became leader of the beast I have help 14 races and we now co-exist in peace.... your telling me now I must leave them to fend for themselves in the harsh galaxy when they are not ready. you are forgetting the Arnor also want this. they wanted to help young races, which includes your race, live in peace. but that dream has now died... due to logic, that great galactic mistake.

... I see what we must do... break away. I am sorry but the Beast have now decided that in the interest of the galaxy we are breaking away from the allied. We are not at war, we are still in peace. but in order to raise the next generation of races to accept eachother we must intervein early. Protect them and teach them. you will not stop us.

First of all we had no idea what you were doing when you were making contact with pre-warp civs our concern was what the eventual outcome would be fore the pre-warp just look at the federation there has even been times that it has been the corse of wars but what you are saying that you are guiding these civs there was another time that the starship voyager because the federation shared its technology with them when they weren't ready for it because of that it nearly wiped them out.

you say you have been guiding pre-warp civs fore a long time what i suggest that you stay as a member of the counsel and work with theas miner civs but build up there civilization gradually over time only give them technology they can handel dont give them all your technology at once but give it to the in stages gradually building them up to our level.

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you must also watch out for any civs that might become a threat to us

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we can't give them technology... We took a complete different route to anyone... Bio-matter technology cannot be repoduced. only the Beast can master it. That's why we are so good at this job. we can't give them technology, we can only guide them.

Besides their are some races that turn out good from rapid advancement. Kusha developed Hyperspace technology just like us... they Built a HUGE mothership that guilded them across the galaxy and found their homeworld, Hiigara. When they first discovered that crashed starship they were only in their late industrial age. they had first contact with an empire that destoryed their original homeworld, Karak. i think they younger races will grow nicely. And hopefully we will be around long enough to see them take to the stars.

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so you will not be providing them with technology? i think that is accepterble as long as you are not giving them technologyi think that we can allow you to continue you do not have to leave the council my main concern was the shearing of technology.

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Freeman43

Join Date 11/2007

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Please i apologias, do not leave the alliance. it just is the confederation just likes to see the minor races develop an a natural pace. That means Intel they get a FTL drive ship of any kind,we make first contact because they are more mature and are not likely to have a mass global panache and destroy another. Then once first contact is made we give them all the privileges as any other race.
But if there is a transport ship coming to a minor race we will stop that. but if there is a metor or something we wont stop it. a lot of the minor civis dont even think that there is nothing out there but them and there god or gods.
Everflyer i dont know how you made first contant with the minor civis with out cassing a panic with your ships. but dont push your luck. once that punch gets to them it whont be pretty. You can destroy a whole new worlde and you might not even know it. and how the autobots made first contact withe humans of that reality must of been in shock and ahh that they did not know what they were seeing and then acepeted it. but if it wornt for WWIII Torchwood whould have blown you out of the sky in a heart beat.

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Freeman43

Join Date 11/2007

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so you will not be providing them with technology? i think that is accepterble as long as you are not giving them technologyi think that we can allow you to continue you do not have to leave the council my main concern was the shearing of technology.

i agree with him that was kind of the whole pont about the drective.

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Freeman43

Join Date 11/2007

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we can't give them technology... We took a complete different route to anyone... Bio-matter technology cannot be repoduced. only the Beast can master it. That's why we are so good at this job. we can't give them technology, we can only guide them.

What about species 8472 they have there own bio-ships

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so you will not be providing them with technology? i think that is accepterble as long as you are not giving them technologyi think that we can allow you to continue you do not have to leave the council my main concern was the shearing of technology.

it's not a matter of choice... we just simple can't... all our technology is grown. We are Beast, and your technology tree is based on what we can morph our flesh into. So our technology is useless to other races even your own.

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Please i apologias, do not leave the alliance. it just is the confederation just likes to see the minor races develop an a natural pace. That means Intel they get a FTL drive ship of any kind,we make first contact because they are more mature and are not likely to have a mass global panache and destroy another. Then once first contact is made we give them all the privileges as any other race.
But if there is a transport ship coming to a minor race we will stop that. but if there is a metor or something we wont stop it. a lot of the minor civis dont even think that there is nothing out there but them and there god or gods.
Everflyer i dont know how you made first contant with the minor civis with out cassing a panic with your ships. but dont push your luck. once that punch gets to them it whont be pretty. You can destroy a whole new worlde and you might not even know it. and how the autobots made first contact withe humans of that reality must of been in shock and ahh that they did not know what they were seeing and then acepeted it. but if it wornt for WWIII Torchwood whould have blown you out of the sky in a heart beat.

First contact is only as hard as you make it... if you land an entire fleet down on a planet yes they will panic. but no one said that you couldn't contacted them through their radio waves and other comunication satalites. that what we do... we send a small ship into high orbit and request permission to speak with their global leaders. after breif chat we start explaining the galaxy to them. We try not to make them wary of us, we keep the atmosphere light and happy. try to relate to their concerns. we then explain why we contact them, to build a better universe. most understand, other are not sure what we mean and require further examples. as the bond between our races thicken we use the trust to secure our presence in orbit. invite a few diplomats to join us in space and tell them, this is their future.

after that we guild them to the stars... we don't give them technology, we help them develop it. we teach them to use it wisely

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