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August 11, 2008 9:12:38 AM from Stardock ForumsStardock Forums
thinking of buying  acer aspire m5640  desktop   with  quad  q6600      but not sure on graphics can have   NVIDIA  8800GT  OR  8600GS  OR RADEON ATI 3850X    ANY   VIEWS
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Reply #1 August 11, 2008 1:11:27 PM
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I'd go with the 8800GT.
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Reply #2 August 11, 2008 1:15:47 PM
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The 8800GT is the best of those cards.

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Reply #3 August 12, 2008 6:09:35 AM
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DON'T BUY A PREBUILT DESKTOP
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Reply #4 August 12, 2008 6:33:20 AM
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why ?
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Reply #5 August 12, 2008 6:35:45 AM
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Custom built is the best way to go. That way you don't have any of the bloat the company always installs with the OS, you can pick out all your own hardware, etc.
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Reply #6 August 12, 2008 6:39:36 AM
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I have the 1GB 8800GT...fantastic card for reasonable money. I'm a happy customer.
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Reply #7 August 12, 2008 7:28:27 AM
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I have the 1GB 8800GT...fantastic card for reasonable money. I'm a happy customer.


you'd also be if you bought the 512MB 8800GT because the 1GB GT is a way to prey on consumers that don't know anything about VRAM and just think MORE MEGABYTEEEES = more power

why ?


because you'll get sacked with a mediocre build and pay out the nose for it. it's likely that by buying the parts you could get at least a substantial GPU upgrade (for example 3850/3870) for the same price
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Reply #8 August 12, 2008 7:34:59 AM
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you'd also be if you bought the 512MB 8800GT because the 1GB GT is a way to prey on consumers that don't know anything about VRAM and just think MORE MEGABYTEEEES = more power


Well when the price difference is only $20AU why the hell not buy it!!!!
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Reply #9 August 12, 2008 8:08:13 AM
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I have a 512MB ATI 4870. I love, love, love it. And i got it free (long story)
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Reply #10 August 12, 2008 8:43:51 AM
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i would go with a 2Gb acer vista compute and run on NVIDIA or 8800GT one or the other. why acer because it seems its the only desktop that runs well on vista and its cheap. so
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Reply #11 August 12, 2008 10:13:11 AM
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JUST GONE TO ANOTHER SHOP WHERE THERE WAS ACER M5640 QUAD Q9300 ? NVIDA GEFORCE 3850 1028 MB CANT FIND ANY THING ON THE CARD ON THE WEB MAYBE JUST FOR ACER ? IM RUNNING ON A ASPIRE 9420 LAPTOP WITH GEFORCE 7 WHICH ANY DRIVER DOWNLOADS COME FROM ACER ONLY AND PLAYS SINS OK BUT SLOW AND I LIVE IN FRANCE WHERE NOT TO MUCH CUSTOM BUILTS
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Reply #12 August 12, 2008 11:39:31 AM
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because you'll get sacked with a mediocre build and pay out the nose for it. it's likely that by buying the parts you could get at least a substantial GPU upgrade (for example 3850/3870) for the same price

Not always. I found a good deal with Dell. If I'd custom built, I'd have payed at least another $300-$500 for just the hardware. I also got a few good bits of software.

whitehall,

Do you mean the Radeon 3850?
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Reply #13 August 12, 2008 11:45:21 AM
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The 4850/4870 seems to be the sweet spot at the moment, the 4870 is somewhere around $280 and outperforms everything except a GTX 280 and a 9800 GX2 from nVidia, both of which are far more expensive.
I'd go with the 4850 in your case, you can find them for somewhere around $170 and the card will still outperform an 8800GT, even all the way up to a 9800GTX, unless your budget doesn't allow for it that is.
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Reply #14 August 12, 2008 11:54:20 AM
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FROM ACER ONLY AND PLAYS SINS OK BUT SLOW AND I LIVE IN FRANCE WHERE NOT TO MUCH CUSTOM BUILTS


i am playing sins and it runs fine on my acer
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Reply #15 August 12, 2008 11:58:14 AM
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Why a quad core a fast duel core can do the job and better usualy, depending on how the programs threed the cpu bandwith.
And whar OS are you going to run, if vista get the max 4Gigs you will need. you can get more but then you have to do specail things to ur comp.
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Reply #16 August 12, 2008 12:19:07 PM
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And whar OS are you going to run, if vista get the max 4Gigs you will need. you can get more but then you have to do specail things to ur comp.


Actually 32 bit will only see 3.5gb max (thats with a 512mb videocard, as the memory for the videocard increases, the amount of system memory seen will decrease).
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Reply #17 August 12, 2008 12:51:08 PM
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If you're a hardcore gamer and loaded, get a SLI card 100% either 8xxx or 9xxx
By the way what kind of port does the motherboard support, might be a good idea to investigate that.
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Reply #18 August 12, 2008 1:11:27 PM
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If you're a hardcore gamer and loaded, get a SLI card 100% either 8xxx or 9xxx
By the way what kind of port does the motherboard support, might be a good idea to investigate that.


Why bother with nVidia? ATi not only has the advantage at the moment but you also get better picture quality and far better driver development. At the moment the only people buying nVidia cards are the people looking for THE top card, so far thats the 9800 GX2 which costs roughly $500 USD. But im sure that will change soon as the 4870 X2 matures through drivers.
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Reply #19 August 12, 2008 1:28:11 PM
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I have the quite opposite experience regarding driver quality.

As for which card got the upperhand it switch all the time, so it doesn't matter IMHO. They'll always spit out a new card out to be "number 1".
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Reply #20 August 12, 2008 2:31:06 PM
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DON'T BUY A PREBUILT DESKTOP


Custom built may be the best way to go, but I think it's a bit unreasonable to expect everybody to have such skills. Not everybody is skilled enough to build their own computer.

you'd also be if you bought the 512MB 8800GT because the 1GB GT is a way to prey on consumers that don't know anything about VRAM and just think MORE MEGABYTEEEES = more power


In the case of games, the high resolution textures with the latest games are pushing memory through the roof. More VRAM will help most of the newest games.

ATi not only has the advantage at the moment but you also get better picture quality and far better driver development.


There is no picture quality difference between the manufacturers for games. A high end nVidia card will give you the same results as a high end ATI card.

Driver quality is the same right now. Both manufacturers have very stable drivers. I have zero troubles with games with my nVidia video card with current drivers.

At the moment the only people buying nVidia cards are the people looking for THE top card, so far thats the 9800 GX2 which costs roughly $500 USD.


I think nVidia is trying to push their GeForce GTX 280s as the latest video card. By the way, Newegg is selling GX2s for 14133231">$300.
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Reply #21 August 12, 2008 2:48:17 PM
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Driver quality is the same right now. Both manufacturers have very stable drivers. I have zero troubles with games with my nVidia video card with current drivers.


I beg to differ. In Vista nVidia still has quite a few problems that ATi doesn't. I'm not saying ATi's drivers are perfect but they sure are developed far better than nVidia's are under VISTA.
I think nVidia is trying to push their GeForce GTX 280s as the latest video card. By the way, Newegg is selling GX2s for $300.

Fair enough, but the majority of the 9800 GX2's (the ones with higher clock speeds) are over $100 more.
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Reply #22 August 12, 2008 2:55:41 PM
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get a radeon 4850 and never look back. for less than $200, it can't be beaten. and astyanax0 is right, amd/ati has better driver development for vista.
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Reply #23 August 12, 2008 2:57:04 PM
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Using 8800GT with Vista, and having no problems at all.
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Reply #24 August 12, 2008 3:10:06 PM
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I've got a QC6600 with a 8800GTS w/320m with 4 Gigs of Ram and my setup runs great.

On my last game of Sins, I pushed the RAM use past 2 gigs so get all the RAM you can afford.   

I vote Nvidia by the way - GPU plus mb processor.

Also Win XP...
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Reply #25 August 12, 2008 3:35:29 PM
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8800gt is an amazing card, get it
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