First, the reason why i said he should get a 8800 is because he wants a cheap solution. Not everyone can spend alot of cash on Geforce 9800+ or Radeon HD4870 or whatever.I own a PC since about 14 years, my job is "Special Computer Scientist" and i'm very well familiar with the up-to-date hardware stuff, thank you.
You didn't sound like it, self-proclaiming yourself a nVidia fanboy - it always gets on my nerves. (btw, want a photo of my 80286?
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In your list of up-to-date high-end graphic cards you actually forgot the Geforce 9800 GX2 which is faster than the 260 and slightly faster in some parts than the 280 (depends, just read through some benchmarks).
Older gen, the GTX280 replaces it performance-wise, doesn't it? I don't get your point.
Before pointing fingers, you actually should read the OP again, then you will understand why people suggested graphic cards such as the 8800 GT. So, 140$ or 199$, it's still an difference. If people go to school still, then they won't even have 100$ most of the time.Of course i strongly recommend buying the better cards as well, but since his cash is limited, you know...
I'm afraid we might have a different perception of it, and I don't know how economy in the USA is after the recent events, but $50 isn't that much in Europe, maybe 2 nights out. And where exactly did I point fingers? $140 older gen vs $200 newer gen, especially when the newer gen is 20-25% faster, handles AA better and supports dx10.1 with upcoming dx10.1 games incoming. I'd borrow money if I didn't have it, to get the newer one.
Since you actually seem to have some knowledge about this stuff, if you suggest a 9800, 260 or 280 graphic card to someone, make sure to mention that having a motherboard with PCIe 2.0 support will make more use out of the current monstercards. However, most 2.0 graphic cards run with 1.0 - 1.1 PCIe Slots, but some do not or cause boot problems. So before giving any advice, make sure to add such important info for the poor people who might buy an expensive card only because of wannabe genius people like you.
I actually checked a 4870 on a pci-e 1.0 review before posting that thread, to make sure they ran on it, so I wouldn't need to come up with a comment. Perhaps I should check nV gfx cards too. And you seriously can't claim that for 1.1.
1. You misrepresent my post's content. I stated that I had a 6800 : I did not suggest that people buy an old series 6000 card. On the contrary, my post clearly states that I do not recommend nVidia videocards older than the best series 8000 models -- which, by the way, are better than some of the more recent series 9000 models.
2. Your 7800 GT is a PCI-Express card. My 6800 model (the one with 512 MB of vram) requires an AGP motherboard. I have a 4½-year old AGP-interface motherboard : it could not fit in and operate your 7800 GT. I was not tricked, and I did not miscalculate : during the summer of 2005, that 6800 was the best that was compatible with my AGP-interface motherboard.
You're too quick on the draw, old man ... and you illustrate this fortune-cookie saying : « A little knowledge is worse than none. »
I was babbling about AGP mobos out of thin air, while I didn't know that the 6800 is a AGP model? No. I merely thought the AGP version of the 7800 hit the market at the same time. Is that enough to say I lack knowledge? (unless you meant it on that specific matter)
And I apologize about that, since you are right. The AGP version came out early '06.
Yes I know, and it's logical, considering that the 9000 series is a process shrink with no serious other advancements. I didn't get your point though. I wasn't suggesting the 9800 GT vs the 8800 Ultra.
Now put your weapons down, nvidia fanboy and fangirl. I didn't attack you, stop trying to prove I am ignorant.
I still think people should be informed about what's going on, rather than suggesting one kind of card, that is simply not going to make it with any title coming 2009 on fully-high, other than Demigod and StarCraft 2 (only companies focused more on gameplay rather than showing off their ultrapimped graphics).
That's how you are going to cause this guy trouble. That's why I said you are going to cost him money.
Where did I say I'm a genius? Where did I say I was full of myself?
Perception is reality, though, and you need to fix your perception about people.
PEOPLE DON'T ATTACK YOU FOR NO REASON, so you should stop taking arguments so defensively, and responding by attacking.
Thank you.