In my opinion, Favor is something that i don't in the game. Winning a game should be winning a game just like losing a game should be as such, all this Persistant scoring makes a win such as yours into a disappointment and why is that? you won the game so you should be happy right? NOPE! Persistant Favor points to upgrade this and that reminds me of World of Warcraft and other MMORPGS's in which the person who plays 10 hours a day will have an advantage over someone who plays more casually just to enjoy the game for what it is and not making it a full time job. I hope in the future there is a server in which people can play online and not be able to manipulate these MMORPG type points to gain an advantage over other players because in reality there are kids who drop out of school to spend each waking moment in a persistant online game to beat everyone else who just want to rely on their own abilities, this is what angers me about modern games and is what your experience made me see in Demigod.

Also they should bring back the team player achievement.  I am not sure if this was for assists in Beta 2, but if it wasn't it could be for the most gold spent at the citadel.

 

I was thinking about this and at first was like yes this makes perfect sense.  But if you look it, the dark forces reached a higher level, killed more grunts, killed more demigods, and did more damage.  Maybe it is okay for them to get this many favor points even if they lost.  This is a lose the battle, win the war, type of scenario.  I would be okay with this occuring in the persistant metagame, if it occured rarely.  If this is a common occurance, then how favor points are awarded needs to be addressed.

Umm, of course they killed more grunts, got more levels, and did more damage. We shut down their portals, they had four hordes coming at them with Catapultasaurs. When this heppens, you gain level very quickly before your Citadel dies.

If you observe the screenshot Nights, we were both the same General.

A lot of the feedback here is being implemented.

I know one thing I'd like to see is that victory should be a MULTIPLIER of your favor score and not just another source of points.

I think it's been said here plenty already, but there is more to the team than the citadel upgrades. That's what the favor points seek to reward. There are a ton things involved in enabling your team to win. Destroying structures allows you to strike key positions. Killing Demigods cuts down on your team's opposition. Buying citadel upgrades defends your team while giving them some extra power to push with. Capturing flags provides bonuses and rallying points.

 

Just to make it clear about where all the awards went in this game:

OrleanKnight: Winner (30)

mcmjon: Least Deaths (25), Most Flags (20), Most Structures (20), Most Gold (15), Winner (30)

iamkira: Most Kills (25), Least Deaths (25), Most Assists (20), Most Damage (25), Most Grunts (20), Longest Kill Streak (25), Participant (5)

oogachak: Most Kills (25), Least Deaths (25), Most Assists (20), Longest Kill Streak (25), Citadel Upgrades (15), Participant (5)

 

We'll take another pass through these awards soon, to a set of values that properly reward all the different ways you enable your team.

True, but the way you're speaking now and the way the game treats things makes it seem like citadel upgrades count for nothing.  For that matter, it also makes it seem like winning counts for nothing as well.

Of course, if I allow my teammate to buy all the citadel upgrades, and I use my money to buy only equipment and items, I will probably have better equipment and more items that will allow me to have more individual kills credited to me, less deaths, etc.

Or we could both not upgrade our citadel at all, allow the opposing team to win, and still rack up more points due to earning more achievements, as what seemed to have happened here.

Yeah, you really should.  You should also make winning mean much, much more than anything else, since otherwise what the heck is the use of winning?  This has happened so very often in multiplayer games where there is effectively a greater reward for losing than there is for winning.  Please correct this.

ll the points for mcmjon can be attributed to him buying items to make his own character more powerful. Right now, support characters are very unrewarding.

 

That's just plain wrong. Additionally, favor points help determine where you stand in the rankings, which is another kick in the groin.

krazykid2688> He has more than 2 wins and 2 losses, it just shows Pantheon matches.  If you look at the rank 2 user, he played about 50- 1 minute custom games on prison against the AI to farm favor and exp.  Everyone in the top 10 did.

Personally I like the favor system as it is right now (presuming you keep your rewards).  It means that losses don't have to be completely unrewarding, and provides incentive to keep fighting even if you ultimately know you may lose the current match.  You mention you put all your money into the citadel and you should be rewarded for it, and you would have been if you had been the one who had actually put the most money in.