Hit. The. Nail. So. Frickin. Hard. On the frickin head.

Seriously, the only thing like DotA that I have noticed is it's whole Gametype/Concept. Other than that, it's completely different in every aspect. Damage system is way different, abilities are way more advanced, characters move different, look different, act different, graphics (Obviously), story (don't even think DotA had one) and even the people that play it. DotA is not even a strategy mod, all you have to do is get like, 3 or 4 key items and BAM! You're unstoppable. That and the abilities are faaaar unbalanced unlike Demigod's.

The ONLY other thing I would like to see though, is weapon/armor imbueing/combining.

Back on topic, I've tested the connection stuff on a few computers from friends that bought it, with different internet providers and different types of internet; and so far, it's only a select few. That might be a bit hard to figure out.

Wow, they are really piling out of the woodwork - innociv, Jinx...now where's Drexion?  You guys should come play tomorrow morning too.  It gets a little more interesting when you have teams of 3 or more and everyone knows the basics. 

Also hopefully after release there will be space between the Stardock Wringing Hands Brigade and the DoTA Gnashing Teeth Horde for the rest of us to play the game

If you want to play DotA, play DotA. If you want to play Demigod, play Demigod.

I didn't think it would be that hard to figure out.

For those talking about Dota player base...just go Garena. 140k~300k players online ALWAYS, at least half of them playing. And that's just the pirate's way, not Battle.net

Main drawback of demigod against DOTA: dota has evolved for more than 5 years, there are a lot of balance, heroes and stuff going. Demigod just started and there's lack of variety on builds and some balance tweaking.

[quote who="[AC]DalzK" reply="8" id="2099829"]Why dont DotA fanboys wait 5 years than comeback?[/quote]

Answer: because there's no reason the game can't be just as good or almost as good NOW.  It's not that far off, really, it just needs some tweaking, some added features or number balancing, perhaps some skill changes, a few more Demigods with more varied skillsets, and things could change dramatically.  Waiting 5 years is not at all necessary.

I don´t think Demigod will be game of the year. There are enough other over hyped games out there :-/

But Demigod is funny. I first heard about it in a little article, in which it was said that Demigod will be similar to DotA. Because of this analogy I was just like: "omfg, great!"

But I´ve learned very fast, that Demigod isn´t DotA (but still, a good game!). So, first I was disappointed about it.

The problem is, that Demigod has been compared very often with DotA in nearly every article. So, every DotA player will wait for the demo (or just go to a torrent page), test it and then bash the game, because it´s not like DotA in all (a few parts, yes, but not everything for a DotA 2.0).

If I want to play CS, I launch CS. If I want to play dota, I launch WC3. If I want to play Demigod, I launch Impulse (to check the store first ).

This is an interesting point, but I don't really agree.  DotA does have plenty to memorize, it's true, and that is a large part of being good at it.  But simply knowing things, like knowing which items can combine into what better items, where the best parts of the map for sneak attacks are, which heroes work best together, and so on, doesn't make you great at DotA.  It's still impossible to be successful in earning gold, killing enemy heroes, and getting to the enemy base if you don't have micro and proper instincts.  That's because it's much harder to earn gold (have to get it through last hit on creeps or through hero kills, and it comes much more slowly anyway) and also because, in large part, the heroes in DotA are much less straightforward.  There are a lot of heroes in DotA whose skills take some practice to get the hang of (Techies for example), and take true skill to get the most of.  Sure, there are some heroes that are extremely straightforward (Sniper is a good example) but even those require some finesse.

Demigod has some of these aspects to varying degrees, but it's rather lacking, I think, especially in the areas of Demigod abilities.  I haven't come across really any skillsets that are not pretty straightforward, and furthermore I'm not so sure how somebody can get significantly more out of the skills through practice.  Also, while DotA might have a bit too much to memorize (debatable), I can't help feeling that Demigod might have just a bit too little.  There aren't very many items, and most of them do pretty much the same thing.  Almost all the maps we've seen so far are very similar, and once you've played a Demigod once or twice, you have a pretty solid idea of how they function and which abilities are best.

I can't speak for everyone else, but I can speak for myself.

I'm not bothered in the slightest by the criticism, constructive criticism is a great thing. I'm just tired of all the idiotic "This feature isn't exactly like DotA, so it sucks and Demigod will fail."

I've said it before, if you want to play DotA, that is perfectly fine, you can play DotA. But stop trying to pressure GPG/Stardock to make Demigod into a complete clone.

I know I am probably the reason many people bitch on here and other threads about stardock/gpg fanboys.  I don't think that is really fair.  I agree with Gir92, and furthermore just hate the idea of criticism without specifics or with no ideas for improvement.  Most of the time when I try to temper the doom sayers, I simply want more specifics or an actual idea on how to improve things.  It has never made sense to me to say this sucks.  I have always felt, if everything sucks so much and you don't have any ideas, go play somewhere else.  Now saying that, I would much rather you play here and help us make things better.

You rang, Ke5trel? hehe... I am looking forward to trying out 3v3, 4v4 or 5v5 matches...certainly... From what i've read though, the connectivity still isn't there to set up such a large game of SPECIFIC players...So i'm still hanging back a bit Maybe i'll try out a game or two now that 3D is out.

-Drexion

that argument doesn't really have legs for a couple reasons

1 - dota was made by one guy.  Eul (sorta), then Guinsoo, then Icefrog, but always one at a time.  While the community helps flag out imbalances, the mod development is by one dude.  Furthermore, it is an independant effort.  They have no resources to speak of, unlike Demigod's budget of how many million?

2 - the second reason is easier to explain with an example.  When WOW came out, it was really shaky and was lacking in end game content.  5 years later, it has tons of end game content and is highly polished.  When new MMO's come out and they're not as good as WOW, do you think people give that game the same 5 year chance that they gave WOW?  Of course not.  Age of Conan and Warhammer Online are two examples of games that were lacking in endgame content and needed a bit more polish (especially the AoC). Currently, AoC is nearly dead and Warhammer seems to be dying a slow death.

What tends to happen when you don't one-up your competition right out of the gates is that you get a large influx of people who are curious about the game at first (making it seem like a success) then suddenly everyone leaves when they realize there's no reason to play this game over that game.

I'm not saying this will happen to Demigod.  I'm only saying your argument, "If you give [this game] 5 years, like you did with [that game], ill be suprised if its not 10x better" is incredibly, incredibly naive.