This would be a major change late int he design process, but is very worthwhile to look at.  If there is room for a "5 point" project, this might be a good one.  It would certainly make the demigods very different.  In faxct they could get 3 skill points to add to any stat on leveling, including speed, attack speed, dmg, armor, hp.  It would be nice to build out my demigod very differently than someone else's.

However if there was a "5 pointer" that I have seen recently that I like a bit more than this, it would be randomized items each game with more items added.  It would also be great if they could pull off the 2 ne demigods as a zero day patch.  I think it would show that stardock is a lot like valve. (Although stardock has done very similar things to valve, they don't have a high of a profile right now.)

Its a brilliant idea, but like Trigi said its a pretty major change in late stages.

How about instead of having one stat upgrade ability, we have 3 or 4?

The first one gives mostly HP/Armour

The second one gives mostly attack speed/weapon damage

The third one gives mostly mana/mana regen.

The fourth one is balanced (as it is now).

This is pretty easy to implemement imo, and would really add diversity into the game - would be great!

Stats do increase when you level.
You passively gain more damage, attack speed, movespeed, health and mana regen, health, and armor.

What you suggest wouldn't really benefit the game at all.  More skills, some skills redesigned, some items redesigned would.

While you say it'd allow you to customize your demigod more, make it more unique.. It wouldn't.  Items do the exact same thing, and only require input every time you level up.

You're basically implying that your base stats mean nothing.  As it happens, the last two threads I read involved the Rook's massive HP and the UB's huge speed and damage.  Obviously, those issues had nothing to do with base stats...

The answer isn't always moar sklz, moar itemz, moar shiniezzzzz!1!11  Being able to change how you used your stat bonuses would make a huge difference in builds.  That single change could be realistically comparable to adding two or three more skills to each Demigod.

I may post a more in-depth hypothetical system tomorrow depending on a hundred things, but it is fairly late now.  Innociv, you're wrong here.  Allowing for custom speccs would make for a huge amount of build diversity.  It would be especially great for all those people complaining about the lack of Demigods and how they don't really have many diverse builds.  And its just one, simple thing.

Rook's HP too high?  UB dishing out too much damage?  I don't intend to stop it.  If a Rook wants to specc tank, let him pump points into HP.  If a UB wants to specc damage man, let him pump points into weapon damage.  But what points?  Attribute Points.

I propose a second skill tree.  Well, I guess it wouldn't really be a tree, but all upgrades have been laid out in that fashion (skill and citadel).  Basically, it would be an Attribute Tree.  The format which I have devised this is a direct rip from the current upgrade path mechanic.  I believe that it could work better, but I'm keeping with what we have.

Anyway, without further adieu, allow me to present...  MS Paint on a Touchpad!!!

That is the essence of what I propose.  Each level, you get 2 Attribute Points that you can spend on any Attributes with an available level up.  Level requirements for Attributes would be 1-10 and 15 just like skills.  Different levels would cost different amounts of points.

Levels 1-2:  1 Point

Levels 3-4:  2 Points

Levels 5-6:  3 Points

Levels 7-8:  4 Points

Levels 9-10: 5 Points

Level 15:  6 Points

This basically prevents people from spamming everything worthwhile to max level.  With this system, you would get 40 total points in a game.  Maxing out a skill would cost 21 Points.  This is a drastic change from the current system.  You could only really fully upgrade one attribute line.  You wanted Demigods to have multiple roles?  Strengths and weaknesses?  You can pick your poison.

So what would you get for fully upgrading a line?  For most Demigods, I would have to say a greater effect than if it was currently lv20.  It could be coming earlier, yes, but it would also be coming at a much higher cost.  They wouldn't be lv20.  They might be doing lv20 damage, but they would have awful health and no manna at all.  They might be able to tank through everything, but they wouldn't be able to cast many spells or hit very hard.  (This system would allow the Rook to keep his huge 8k HP... if he fully upgraded it.)

But this system can really take a turn for Generals.  In short:  Unit Upgrades.  I propose that, in addition to the General's ability to upgrade his/her own stats that they should be able to upgrade Minion stats.  I think Generals should get 3 Points per level in order to help manage this, as all the upgrades would come from the same point pool.  If you wanted to make an Assassin-General, then you could compensate for his lower stats by pumping all your Attribute Points into your character.  If you wanted an unstoppable army, you could boost your minion health and damage...but don't forget to upgrade your own HP!

The current Morale/Enhanced Stats (or whatever it is called) would basically turn into a free Attribute level.  If you selected this on the skill screen, you would simply gain however many Attribute Points you would normally gain on a level up (2 for Assassins, 3 for Generals).

That's it.  Its really that simple.  Unfortunately, I kind of lack some important knowledge.  What stats are actually increased when you level up?  I'm assuming HP/Regen, Manna/Regen, and Damage/Atk. Speed are all increased (at least, I'm fairly sure about Atk. Speed).  What else is upgraded?  What else could we include for upgrading?  Armor?  Movement speed?  I currently balanced it assuming that HP/Regen, Manna/Regen, and Damage/Atk. Speed are the only things upgraded.  If other things are upgraded and/or could be upgraded, then things should definitely become cheaper.

Of course, everything is hypothetical.  Don't tell me its a stupid idea because my numbers are off.  Tell me what numbers you would use instead.  This is just a rough outline.

Wait... You're opposed to the system because you have to click too much?  Hmmm...  Oh wait, I specifically addressed that!

I agree that there are better ways to present it, however this is the format used repeatedly throughout the game.  If they are willing/able to change it then more power to them.  But honestly, you're opposed to the idea because you have to click too much?  Even my cpm isn't that bad.

I still ahve to press C every level.

How does this improve customization in a way items can't?  If you want a rook to be able to specialize in more health, you can buy a +health item.  If you think Rook needs more health, then +health items can be buffed..  But, he doesn't need more.

A better solution would be items that give a lot of +health, but subtract damage, I think.

But.. do we have a lack of choice now?  If we do, it's the fault of items and skills, not lack of stats. :/

I guess I just don't see how this will improve the game more than improved items and improved skills will.

Stats are usually in mmo's and rpg's more for item requirements.  Which they make sense for there.  You are kept from having really high armor stats because you need al ot fo str for that big sword.  But I'd HATE there to be stat requirements on items in Demigod.

The only game who's stats I really liked is Guild Wars.
  In guild wars you dont' have str, dex, mana, or any of that.  Every maxes at level 20 and has the same max health, same max damage, same max mana.  You can get +health, +mana, +armor from armor, and +mana, life leach at the cost of health degen, and so on on your weapons.
  It's stats are like "Fire magic" which is 1-12 points and all your fire skills don't have levels, they're dependant on your 'Fire Magic" attribute.  So basically if Fire Magic is level 12, all your fire skills aare level 12.

  But such a thing wouldn't work in Demigod, just like I think any stats wouldn't work.
  I don't think the devs didn't put stats in Demigod because they didn't feel like it, or didn't have time.  It shouldn't hardly take any effort to add in points you gain per level to spend on buttons which raise health, mana, hps, mps, damage, armor.  I imagine Tyo, Scathis, or any of the other designers realised it'd pretty much add nothing to the game and it'd just be fluff.

I think we have a lack of choice because of how much money we have to pour into the citadel and, for generals, buying minions. This way you can customize your characters stats without having to buy items. I often find myself pouring all my money into the citadel and not buying any items until very late game, if at all.

i don't get how anyone can oppose this. currently the different demigod builds lack variety. they need, more abilities and need more ways to change stats. 8 deep demigods beats 10-12 shallow ones anyday.

Adding some sort of customization to atrributes would be great, especially if you could change certain abilities stats also, like make boulder roll stronger, or hammer strike(is this the name?) hit softer but cast faster.

so, add abiltity to increase things like armor, health, regens, mana, speed, etc, and allow to do for moves

I do see your point innociv. I just disagree. We can agree to disagree, right?

And I was thinking they'd still get a little bonus automatically when they level, but maybe just not as much. Or, since right now different demigods gain stats differently, make them all gain a slight amount in all areas, and you just select which stats you would like to give a greater bonus to.

and having to spend more later on to really increase the stat sounds really good to me.

   Oh!  My bad.  I thought you were saying you'd GAIN 1 point at level 1-2.. and such.  Not that's the upgrade cost.  I didn't read it enough.

   And I think the limited potential is purely do to the current items and skills.  They need some working.  While adding stats might be a "quick fix", it would be bad in the long run.    And, it wouldn't be much of a fix.