I'd say if your point #2 is correct, then they're about balanced.

Erebus has lots of tricks if played correctly but he can still be killed and it's always a hard EQ choice for him (as you want health, health regen, buffs for your minons, mana and mana regen as well as armor!). 

They feel pretty good to me right now (Generals Vs Assassins) but I think more research is needed -- and more *live* opponnets/real people.

I'm basing this also on that I used to play rook and I could take getting beat on, wade in and smash the general. Now I wad in and I am getting the crap beat out of me and I can't kill the general. Generals feel like assassin+ now. When I played eberus I was building him like a assassin.

I'm with you Ke5trel. Seems the balance of power is tipped. They nerfed and empower'd the other side so it may just take a bit for play style to change but it seems the balance is numerical and not skill based.

Erebus is just op now, the others are alot more "balanced"  With the right war gear Erebus is easy mode.  The Bite is what makes all the difference. If you look at Oak vrs Him, Oaks SMite only does damage and barly increases the damage the target takes.  While erebus bite Heals for a crap ton. On top of that, Oak has to spend mana every time he wants to make spirits.  And on top of that, Oak has to KILL to get health, while erebus just has to hit. With a decent set of Health and more drains, You can take 3+ heros on with erebus and the slight chance you start to loose, bat out for 2 seconds and your full life agin. Now for the other generals, i have not played so i wont compent.

Erm yes shouldn't they be as strong?

But the issue of minion builds being bad still hasn't been addressed.

And no Erebus isnt' OP.  He's the hardest to play Demigod.  Sure he's good if someone is pro but most people  I see are awful with.

And wtf?  Oaks wards only cost 200 mana.
You have no idea what you're talking about.  Stop trying to say things are imba when you don't even know how to play.  You probably just got beat hard by someone good at Erebus so you're giving a knee jerk reaction.

"Erebus is just op now, the others are alot more "balanced"  With the right war gear Erebus is easy mode.  The Bite is what makes all the difference. If you look at Oak vrs Him, Oaks SMite only does damage and barly increases the damage the target takes."

Umm erebus is the counter for senda NOT oak.

Senda has a heal spell that can heal anyone and heals for more then the bite add to that her heal aura and shes the best team healer in the game.

Oak can be even more powerfull then erebus as well, with faster speed higher hits etc.. 200man to call a ward with 10 spirts out his damage hits become even harder hiting.

get him the skill for health/mana on kills and in to that his aoe, and he mass kills  smaller troops for quick regens and can go no stop, gear him up he has high armor damage the abilty to heal etc.. wow sounds like all the genrals but for the thron lady(or does she have a means to heal as well?)

I've been playing 1v1s with Oak and owning Torch bearers and Filthy Beasts. I've been playing prisonlevel only.. The thing is, while my hero is weaker at the begining i can just have my spitirts harrass the enemy, while oak runs around gaining exp... then when i get some points into raise dead and soul power, the enemy cant seem to do much to me... played one good beast player, but he could never kill me... and it was only a matter of time before my dude was tanked out,

Eh, feels balanced to me so far. I haven't played against many skilled players yet, but enemy assasin demigods havent had too many problems with my minions when I play as Erebus, and I never have issues with enemy minions. I usually just ignore high HP minions and think of them as small DoT spells that are applied to me, which will end when I kill the enemy general, if you keep moving most of them will hardly ever even hit you anyways.

Also, I've been dominating with Erebus against average skilled players, mostly because everyone seems to automatically assume he's a softie. I never burst them until they're at around 1,500 or lower HP, so during a fight they'll assume my DPS is low, and then get suprised when I bite and swarm them, killing them pretty quickly. The bracers that give you +300 damage for ten seconds is pretty helpful as well. Also, luring enemies away from their towers does wonders, occupy your minions with enemy reinforcements, then do standard attacks against an enemy demigod, he'll assume he can kill you easily because your initial DPS is so low... but once you drag him far away enough, pop a HP pot, send all your minions to attack him, bite him and swarm him when he tries to run away. I get a ton of my kills with Erebus simply because other players get cocky and want to get an easy kill.

Anyways... Erebus is the only general I've personally observed to be powerful with minions. QoT just lives a long time, never seen anyone play Sedna online and Oak isn't exactly built for damage. If anything, Erebus is the DPSer of the generals, so expect him to do some decent DPS.

I think the reason erebus specifically is giving a lot of people trouble is because how well his spells combine together combared to other demigods. I don't see a siginificant disadvantage for playing an assassin vs general. But probably two assassins vs a general + assassin is nasty since the second team probably has heals/shields while still dealing about the same damage, considering there's coordination. But in an actual mixup it seems alright.

To the person who stated the assassin should pop in and out of battle to spike damage, etc...well sadly this doesn't seem to work well in demigod, like it did in dota for example where "ganking" was possible. There are no trees or paths that grunts don't go through for yoru assassin to hide and wait for it's prey. I really don't like that...

well honestly first i heard VL was weakest witch it may have well been in beta, i still played him(and loved him), and now hes got his buff and the minions cheaper and all round a wee bit deadlyer, but if u are an assassin the point is to kill the generals, like assassins did , but what i mean is dont focus on the minions, focus the general, if u cant stand when the minions are out well u need to rethink your gear/build/strat (any of em)  once the general goes down his minions fall too.

and yea im rather good with VL especcialy cause i play him how he's ment to be played (ok and was in beta a long time), and bite is your best friend. Dont forget it not only heals u but it reduces enemy armor and run speed, and the heal gets maxd at 900 so long games that shouldnt be that big of a deal if u got the hp, its not like a super powerfull skill , just good for killing runners , and getting the jump on dmg,

BUT the point is generals may be more like assassins to some now but they've always been able to be, it comes down to gear basicly. buff a generals gear he's gonna be just as powerfull as an assassin.

and please for the love of god dont make minions our main source of dmg, that would ruin it for me, im not here to play minions i wanna play my Demigod.
(Ok and maybe im liking the VL love/hate   lol)

Which is simply hilarious because the game is built on the engine of one of the most advanced RTS games, interface wise.

We, the Beta Testers, listed endless forums of very, very detailed suggestions on how to correct the gameplay of Generals. None of the feedback was taken, period. They simply said we'd have to wait for an expansion for Generals to get a real change in game play. At present, they are and always were just Assassins with Minions. Don't read any further into the concept.