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Is there a plan to let consumers design maps?

April 17, 2009 12:09:33 AM from Demigod ForumsDemigod Forums

Just curious.

 

Thx

 

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Reply #1 April 17, 2009 12:18:51 AM
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i dont think so, cuz each map is made in 3dmax

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Reply #2 April 17, 2009 12:25:00 AM
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Quoting Marceloide,
reply 1
i dont think so, cuz each map is made in 3dmax

 

ummm so? Still be nice if they let consumers design maps. I imagine we would see some stunning custom maps from the community.


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Reply #3 April 17, 2009 12:27:34 AM
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And? A lot of mod makers use 3dmax as well, look at oblivion. Hell, I know how to use 3dmax. All we'd really need is an effective way to import them, I suppose, and a big enough fan base.

Also, making an editor is not out of the water, perhaps it's something than can whip up in that year of free support. I'd really wish they'd at least offer a donation system to help bolster support, I wouldn't mind tossing a few bucks a week and with enough people it would add up. Free support is grand, but let people that play the game often help support it! I'm sure all those people still playing starcraft and Diablo would of loved to help pay for it's continued support and improvement. Made moot by SCII & Diablo III now, but you get my point.

 

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Reply #4 April 17, 2009 12:33:59 AM
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Comminuty is what makes or breaks a game, modding is a -very- large part of that community. For any sort of longevity i think they would need too.

EDIT: The only problem is going to be the auto-matching/panth/custom games issue. Trying to ensure everyone has everything could be a nightmare.

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Reply #5 April 17, 2009 12:44:57 AM
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Quoting XSive_Death,
reply 4
Comminuty is what makes or breaks a game, modding is a -very- large part of that community. For any sort of longevity i think they would need too.

EDIT: The only problem is going to be the auto-matching/panth/custom games issue. Trying to ensure everyone has everything could be a nightmare.

Simple case of checking a cache of available maps. I doubt a quick scan of a text file would slowdown joining.

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Reply #6 April 17, 2009 1:00:58 AM
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This is totally plausible.  The problem as stated is the maps require using 3DMax.  Since there will always be people adventurous enough to do this, the hang up we have is a map editor.

 

You will be happy to know that a map editor that allowed the placement of the citadel, towers, portals, flags, fortresses, and other objects already exists.  It was actually available during the beta and a number of us played around with it.  The ld editor was backed up by a number of folks, but no longer appears to work with game version past the 2nd beta phase.  However, they stated they wanted to add mod support and if demand was high enough and they had a reasonable amount of purchases, it was totally foreseeable that they would release an updated map importer/editor.

 

Again this requires existing 3dmax fields as a base, but they certainly have a map importer/editor already.

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Reply #7 April 17, 2009 1:38:45 AM
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They really HAVE to add this as a long term feature if they want people still playign this game in 5 years... WC3 would be pretty much dead without custom maps like DOTA and the 1000s of tower defense maps.

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Reply #8 April 17, 2009 1:49:47 AM
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I thought the editor is already included?  But maybe not the 3dsmax importer.

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Reply #9 April 17, 2009 1:53:53 AM
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If they want to easily increase the longevity of this game they ought to make a map maker.

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Reply #10 April 17, 2009 4:11:30 AM
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Quoting Marceloide,
reply 1
i dont think so, cuz each map is made in 3dmax

 

3dmax is not that hard to learn.

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Reply #11 April 17, 2009 4:14:33 AM
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Quoting Exile96,
reply 10

Quoting Marceloide, reply 1i dont think so, cuz each map is made in 3dmax


 

3dmax is not that hard to learn.


I think the point they're trying to make is these maps are big. The 8 maps together total ~700 megabytes so one map would take a long time to download. 

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Reply #12 April 17, 2009 4:47:28 AM
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This should be a must!!!! They developers should allow players to design maps!

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Reply #13 April 17, 2009 8:13:11 PM
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Quoting wbobeirne,
reply 11

Quoting Exile96, reply 10
Quoting Marceloide, reply 1i dont think so, cuz each map is made in 3dmax


 

3dmax is not that hard to learn.

I think the point they're trying to make is these maps are big. The 8 maps together total ~700 megabytes so one map would take a long time to download. 

yay! you reach the thing i tried to say.. xP

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Reply #14 April 17, 2009 8:16:25 PM
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100mb for a map?  Well UT3 and CoD4 maps are 25-75mb so that's not a stretch..

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Reply #15 April 18, 2009 1:45:06 AM
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A map maker + mod tools would have given this game awesome depth.  Easy mod tooling like was included in WC-3 is part of the reason Demigod is around today to begin with; DOTA, ToB, Tower Defense style games give rise to the expansion of ideas and creativity.  Shame.

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Reply #16 April 18, 2009 2:03:46 AM
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FYI there is a folder called EDITOR>TOOLS in the game directory.

 

So im sure at some point it will be available, it would be silly to think not

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Reply #17 April 18, 2009 5:23:02 AM
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Quoting T3CH82,
reply 16
FYI there is a folder called EDITOR>TOOLS in the game directory.

 
So im sure at some point it will be available, it would be silly to think not

Good point

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Reply #18 April 18, 2009 9:08:57 PM
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I'm with you guys... there needs to be a map editor/maker. Though I thought they used Granny to make their maps, but I could be wrong. Either way 3dmax could be used so long as there was an import/export function. I by no means am any kind of modder, so I hope that they would make this very user friendly. I'd love to make some maps for everyone to play on.

 

Peace,

Cor

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