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1. Fear: Fear causes the enemy demigod to lose control of their character for a breif moment and causes them to run in a random direction away from the battle for 2 seconds and reduces their armor. Each progressive level of Fear increases the time a demigod is feared with a cap of 5 possibly 7 seconds. At lvl 15, fear grants the ability madness.        Madness: Top of the fear tree. With madness, the enemy demigod loses control of their character for 7 seconds and attacks his nearby allies. If he kills one of his allies in that 7 seconds, the kill goes to the demigod who cast madness.
This would be incredibly frustrating to play against.  You'd never have control of your dg and it owuld essentially be them dominating you while you watched unable to do anything.
 
Anyways, here's my idea(my numbers would probably be OP though):
 
Name:  Usurper
 
Description:  A vile snake that spits venom from a distance.  He has the ability to burrow to various locations.
 
Playstyle:  Hit and Run.  Assassin type.  Forces of Darkness.
 
Physical attributes:  Low health.  Medium mana capacity(close to QoT's or Sedna's).  Low to moderate base damage, 20 yd range on the attack.  Moderate movement speed.  Moderate rate of fire.
 
Abilities:
Ability 1 - Burrow(triggered, 5 levels 1,4,7,10):  The Usurper burrows to the target location(15 yd range).  Mana cost should be comparable to bramble shield, cast time should be between instant and 0.3 seconds.  Cooldown should be 7 seconds.  Upon unburrowing, the Usurper gains a weapon bonus for the next few seconds, as a rough idea 15/1(damage/seconds) at level 1, 30/2 at level 2, 45/3 at level 3, 60/4 at level 4.  Level 5 in the line increases the range to 30 yds but does not carry other bonuses(should probably carry a different name).
 
Ability 2 - Improved Burrowing(passive, 3 levels 5,10,15):  The cooldown on the Usurper's burrow is reduced.  20% at level 1, 30% at level 2, 40% at level 3.
 
Ability 3 - Bask(triggered, 4 levels 1,4,7,10):  Costs 0 mana.  1.5 second cast time.  15 second cooldown.  The Usurper enters a vulnerable state where he cannot move, use abilities, or capture flags and has 0 armor for the next 8 seconds.  His health and Mana regeneration are increased by 100% per level of this ability.  Due to the highly reflective nature of his scales, his position on the map is revealed when he starts the cast.
 
Ability 4 -  Godnap(triggered, 3 levels 5,10,15):  Costs a significant amount of mana.  2 second cast time.  45 second cooldown.  Burrows to an enemy demigod's location and drags him back to your original location.  Range increases with levels, 10 yds at level 1, 15 yds at level 2, 20 yds at level 3
 
Ability 5 - Constrictor(triggered, 4 levels 1,4,7,10):  Mana costs and range comparable to pounce.  0.3 second cast time.  10 second cooldown  Interrupts and stuns target while in effect.  Constricts target, dealing 200 damage per second for 1 second at level 1, 200 damage per second for 2 seconds at level 2.  300 damage per second for 2 seconds at level 3, 300 damage per second for 3 seconds at level 4.
 
Ability 6 - Cold Blooded(passive, 3 levels 2,5,8):  Enhanced mana regeneration.  An additional 5 at level 1, an additional 10 at level 2, an addition 15 at level 3.  The values are cumulative if necessary.
 
Ability 7 - Swiftness of the Serpent(passive, 3 levels 2,5,8):  Skill cooldown reduction aura.  All allies within 15 yds receive reduced cooldowns.  10% at level 1.  15% at level 2.  20% at level 3.
Ability 8 - Venom(passive, 3 levels 2,5,8):  Each of your attacks reduces enemy mana by 5% of the damage dealt per level of venom.

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Power Leg extend skill?

not necessarily, no more than a stun. Since this demigod relies on range and stupid minion AI responsiveness in order to actually do damage it would be necessary for him to have some good crowd control. I don't see how 5 seconds would be "never having control of your demigod" as there are 5 second stuns in the game already... The skill could have a 30 second cooldown so it could only be used once per fight. They could also adjust the duration of the fear, and mechanic of how feared demigods act. It could just be a stun/paralysis, I just thought that wouldn't be as creative as a fear ability.

On the Money Purse thingy...your amount is too much while the suggested amount is just right.    I mean, 4x60(min)=240 per minute at the start.  Now, say a match lasts like a normal match which is 30-45 minutes.  30x240=7200 gold free for the match under your suggestion.  However, with it just being 2 instead of 4 it's only 3600 for the match, or 120 per minute.  It's got to be looked in a practical manner over a long run.

The name could just be "Wizard".  Or  "The Mage".  Or how about "Super Magical Starshine Express!"

So, you have a mage, that is a general with minions, has support skills (and powerfull ones, totems, Immunity), gives money, has ranged spells, extra armor, extra weapon dmg...  why not give him extra HP while you'r at it, its the only missing thing.

I know those numbers are just place holders, but to balance such nice skills you would have to lower the numbers beyond the point of no fun.

Don't get me wrong, general and no special minions, no skills involving the special minions... looks more like a hybrid than a general.

Why not considering some good ideas in the thread, make a diferent demigod, with diferent kind of skills and not just the best from each of the existing demigods.

GPG and Stardock have plenty of workers for sure, i'm sure you guys have plenty of ideas on how to make a new, unique and "balanced" demigod. Fun to play too.

The thing that noone realises pertains to the weapons demigods use:

Torchbearer: Magic wand

Unclean Beast: Claws

Regulus: Crossbow

Rook: Hamer

Oak: Axe

Queen of Thorns: plant

Sedna: Animal

Regulus: Scythe

WE AIN'T GOT A FREAKING SWORDSMAN FOR GOD'S SAKE.

We need someone who can handle a sword.

My idea of a goldlike swordsman would be a rather stout shortie who can handle a really really big broadsword.

cheers

My first thoughts are to try to balance out what the game lacks in terms of heroes and right now it seems there's a lack of ranged heroes. There's only 3, Reg/TB/QoT while the other 5 are melee.

There's also no hero that is focused on debuffing and that would be an interesting type of gameplay.

Well I got to go back to work...more feedback later.

This is truth. Though gold is a lesser drive than exp.

i dont have any ideas for demigods, but here are some abilities which i think would be cool:

ability to pick up a tower(or one in each hand) and spin it around/throw it for x amount of damage --> increases damage per level, ofc tower would be teleported back into place but takes some damage from the use of this spell

invisible moving wards -->on full level allows you to capture a flag for 20 secs or allows you to remove capture lock effect

quicksand effect, sucking ONLY minions and creeps in as they run over it --> higher levels will trap demigods for a certain amount of time(very short) and have a bigger AoE

ability to throw another demigod to a certain range, and you get bounced over the demigod you throw, like a "leap frog" effect, you would aim this by lining yourself up with the demigod infront of you and the area you want to aim for.(sorry, kinda hard to explain)

ability to change the location of a creep portal, only on your side of the map

ability to convert 5 creeps into one large creep(low damage/high hp), or a giant into 5 smaller ones,can occur to ally creeps or enemy creeps

ability to take damage from a specified target and make the damage occur to you for a certain amount of time

Name of Demigod: Bryn

Type of Demigod: General

Backstory: After many thousands of years serving as a Valkyrie in the heavenly host Bryn grew frustrated with the mandate of non interference with the lower realms. Having witnessed death beyond the scope or mortal comprehension Bryn increasingly felt the suffering of brave men and women at the hands of dark forces was senseless when she had the considerable power to prevent it.

The guilt began to consume her over the course of several hundred years until at the battle of Amoth Kre she drew her blade on impulse and severed the arm of the undead king Salphrex as he was about to strike down the Amazonian warrior Haphaera.

Before the foul maggot rotten arm struck the ground Bryn was violently thrown from her heavenly mount. No longer heeding her commands the mount disappeared into the clouds leaving Bryn trapped in the lower realm. Salphrex loomed above her and Bryn reacted by swinging her blade upward.

The sword that she had long viewed as ceremonial was nevertheless forged in the divine realm. Salphrex exploded in a shower of bone fragments and rotting flesh when the upward arc of Bryn’s sword passed through the cavity that once housed a heart. Leaping to her feet Bryn bared her teeth and turned her gaze on the remaining forces of darkness.

Centuries of repressed rage were unleashed as Bryn began to rend the undead army apart single handedly as the exhausted Amazonian survivors watched in stunned amazement. It is said her screams of rage drew eagles from the sky, their own cries eerily similar to that of Bryn as they flew down to tear at what little flesh remained of the animated dead.

When her rage ended there was nothing but scattered limbs and smashed bones littering the valley and Bryn fell to the ground and succumbed to exhaustion for the first time in her existence. Haphaera gathered Bryn onto a litter and bore her back to the closest Amazonian encampment.

After sleeping for three days Bryn woke to discover that she was now an object of reverence to the Amazonians. She protested their worship but was unable to convince them she was not divine. Had she not come from the skies in the hour of need? In the years to come Bryn was able to rally the forces of the Amazonians and repel the undead invasion when all had seemed lost.

In the years of peace that followed Bryn wondered how she been able to retain almost all of her divine powers and the powerful blade after breaking the highest of divine laws…

Ability 1: The Battle Rage of Bryn

Rank 1: Energy Cost (x) Instant. Bryn issues a scream of defiance that summons eagles to circle around her. All enemy demigods and priests within 15 yards of Bryn have a 10% chance per second to have an ability being cast interrupted by eagle strikes. 10 second duration. 70 second cooldown.

Rank 2: Energy Cost (x) Instant. Bryn issues a scream of defiance that summons eagles to circle around her. All enemy demigods and priests within 15 yards of Bryn have a 20% chance per second to have an ability being cast interrupted by eagle strikes. 15 second duration. 70 second cooldown.

Rank 3: Energy Cost (x) Instant. Bryn issues a scream of defiance that summons eagles to circle around her. All enemy demigods and priests within 15 yards of Bryn have a 30% chance per second to have an ability being cast interrupted by eagle strikes. 20 second duration. 70 second cooldown.

Ability 2: Amazon Warriors

Rank 1: Energy Cost (x) Cast time 0.5 sec 7 second cooldown.

Bryn Summons an Amazon Warrior skilled in the bow and the spear.

She may have 2 Amazon Warriors active

Health 750 Speed 6.2 Damage 25 (bow) 32 (spear) Range 18 (bow) 5 (spear) Attack Speed (x)

If a Amazon Warrior dies Bryn gains a stackable debuff “Guilt of the Valkyrie” which temporarily reduces some stats by (x).

Rank 2: Energy Cost (x) Cast time 0.5 sec 7 second cooldown.

Bryn Summons an Amazon Warrior skilled in the bow and the spear.

She may have 2 Amazon Warriors active

Health 1000 Speed 6.4 Damage 30 (bow) 40 (spear) Range 18 (bow) 5 (spear) Attack Speed (x)

If a Amazon Warrior dies Bryn gains a stackable debuff “Guilt of the Valkyrie” which temporarily reduces some stats by (x).

Rank 3: Energy Cost (x) Cast time 0.5 sec 7 second cooldown.

Bryn Summons an Amazon Warrior skilled in the bow and the spear.

She may have 2 Amazon Warriors active

Health 1250 Speed 6.6 Damage 35 (bow) 48 (spear) Range 18 (bow) 5 (spear) Attack Speed (x)

If a Amazon Warrior dies Bryn gains a stackable debuff “Guilt of the Valkyrie” which temporarily reduces some stats by (x).

Rank 4: Energy Cost (x) Cast time 0.5 sec 7 second cooldown.

Bryn Summons an Amazon Warrior skilled in the bow and the spear.

She may have 2 Amazon Warriors active

Health 1500 Speed 6.8 Damage 40 (bow) 56 (spear) Range 18 (bow) 5 (spear) Attack Speed (x)

If a Amazon Warrior dies Bryn gains a stackable debuff “Guilt of the Valkyrie” which temporarily reduces some stats by (x).

Rank 5: Bryn’s Triumph

Bryn’s history as a Valkyrie, her time among the Amazons and the infusion of divine power grant Bryn mastery over death. She can now has to power to ressurect any Amazon that falls in battle. While she can not do this until after victory is secured she is no longer effected by guilt when an Amazon falls.

Ability 3: Unleashed Blade*

Rank 1: Energy Cost (x) Cast Time 0.5 seconds Range 5 Cooldown 15 seconds

Bryn channels her rage into a devastating swing of her sword dealing weapon damage + 250 to her target and 65% damage to everything else in range.

Rank 2: Energy Cost (x) Cast Time 0.5 seconds Range 5 Cooldown 15 seconds

Bryn channels her rage into a devastating swing of her sword dealing weapon damage + 450 to her target and 75% damage to everything else in range.

Rank 3: Energy Cost (x) Cast Time 0.5 seconds Range 5 Cooldown 15 seconds

Bryn channels her rage into a devastating swing of her sword dealing weapon damage + 650 to her target and 85% damage to everything else in range.

Rank 4: Energy Cost (x) Cast Time 0.5 seconds Range 5 Cooldown 15 seconds

Bryn channels her rage into a devastating swing of her sword dealing weapon damage + 850 to her target and 95% damage to everything else in range.

Rank 5: Follow Through

Bryn’s gains (x)% attack speed for (x) seconds.

* The mana cost on this ability should probably be pretty steep or the cooldown increased.

Ability 4: Leading from the Front

Rank 1: Passive 15 yard radius

Bryn puts the safety of those under her command before her own. All non DG allies within the area of effect gain 5% evasion. Bryn does not benefit from this aura and permanantly loses 100 armour for always seeking the most dangerous areas of the battlefield.

Rank 2: Passive 15 yard radius

Bryn puts the safety of those under her command before her own. All non DG allies within the area of effect gain 10% evasion. Bryn does not benefit from this aura and permanantly loses 200 armour for always seeking the most dangerous areas of the battlefield.

Rank 3: Bryn’s selfless acts inspire the troops and word spreads. The radius increases to 25 yards.

Ability 5: Charge

Rank 1: Energy Cost (x) Instant 15 yard radius 90 second cooldown

Bryn gains +(x) %  movement speed and all non priest/siege allied units within the radius gain movement speed equal to hers for 7 seconds

Rank 2: Energy Cost (x) Instant 15 yard radius 70 second cooldown

Bryn gains +(x) %  movement speed and all non priest/siege allied units within the radius gain movement speed equal to hers for 7 seconds

Rank 3: The first weapon attack by non priest/siege units under the effect of charge does double damage.

Ability 6: Horn of Plenty

Rank 1: Energy Cost (x) 0.5 second cast 60 second cooldown

Byrn retains all of the divine items a Valkyrie carries among which is a horn of plenty from the table of the gods. By focusing her power she is able to refill the horn and drink from an endless supply of Ambrosia that grants her 35 HP per second for 10 seconds.

Rank 2: Energy Cost (x) 0.5 second cast 55 second cooldown

Byrn retains all of the divine items a Valkyrie carries among which is a horn of plenty from the table of the gods. By focusing her power she is able to refill the horn and drink from an endless supply of Ambrosia that grants her 55 HP per second for 10 seconds.

Rank 3: Energy Cost (x) 0.5 second cast 50 second cooldown

Byrn retains all of the divine items a Valkyrie carries among which is a horn of plenty from the table of the gods. By focusing her power she is able to refill the horn and drink from an endless supply of Ambrosia that grants her 75 HP per second for 10 seconds.

Rank 4: Energy Cost (x) 0.5 second cast 45 second cooldown

Byrn retains all of the divine items a Valkyrie carries among which is a horn of plenty from the table of the gods. By focusing her power she is able to refill the horn and drink from an endless supply of Ambrosia that grants 100 HP per second for 10 seconds.

Rank 5: The Ambrosia is so potent that maximum HP is increased by 1000 for 30 seconds.

Ability 7: Mount of the Valkyrie*

Rank 1: Bryn is able to once again able to command the mount of a Valkyrie that has seen countless battlefields. 5% Movement speed 5% evasion.

Rank 2: Bryn is able to once again able to command the mount of a Valkyrie that has seen countless battlefields. 10% Movement speed 10% evasion.

Rank 3: Bryn is able to once again able to command the mount of a Valkyrie that has seen countless battlefields. 15% Movement speed 15% evasion.

* Graphically Bryn should be on foot before gaining this horse. Mechanics wise she should be a bit slow without the horse.

Ability 8: Immortal Leadership

Rank 1: Energy cost (x) Instant 25 yard radius 45 second cooldown

Bryn has the battle experience and tactical knowledge of thousands upon thousands of engagements. All non DG units that can hear her orders gain 100 armour and (x) weapon damage for 20 seconds.

Rank 2: Energy cost (x) Instant 25 yard radius 45 second cooldown

Bryn has the battle experience and tactical knowledge of thousands upon thousands of engagements. All non DG units that can hear her orders gain 200 armour and (x) weapon damage for 20 seconds.

Rank 3: Energy cost (x) Instant 25 yard radius 45 second cooldown

Bryn has the battle experience and tactical knowledge of thousands upon thousands of engagements. All non DG units that can hear her orders gain 300 armour and (x) weapon damage for 20 seconds.

Rank 4: Energy cost (x) Instant 25 yard radius 45 second cooldown

Bryn has the battle experience and tactical knowledge of thousands upon thousands of engagements. All non DG units that can hear her orders gain 400 armour and (x) weapon damage for 20 seconds.

Rank 5: Bryn’s orders are so perfectly timed that no unit takes a scratch for the first 5 seconds.

Obviously theres a lot of room for balance - these numbers are just a reflection of the general idea behind each ability. I spent waaaaaay to much time working on this

Zorro demigod ftw.

Name of Demigod: Dreamer (or TBD)

Type of DG: Support Assassin

General Description: A master of the dream realm. Specalises in messing with peoples heads. She wears long hooded robes. 

Abilities: 

Ability 1.

Dream state.

1. Enters the dream realm, becoming immune to attacks (and invisible). 50mps drain. 
   
2. Gains 15% more speed while in this state. 75mps drain
3. Gains 50hps while in this state. 100mps drain.
4. Upon exiting the dream state, has 50% damage resistence for 5 seconds. 

Ability 2. 

Sleep. Can only be cast while in the dream state. All affected creeps and DGs are put to sleep (stunned) for 4/6/8/10 seconds. Any damage will wake up sleeping DGs/creeps. 

Ability 3.

Haze. Can only be cast while in the dream state. An AoE debuff, reducing movement and attack speed by 10/20/30/40 for 5 seconds.

Ability 4. 

Nightmare. Can only be used on DGs and while NOT in the dream state. The dreamer becomes immobile, can't attack or use abilities. The target also can't use abilities. After 10 seconds, the target takes 50/75/100% of his/her total HP in damage. Stunning, interupting or killing the dreamer during the countdown will stop it. 

Ability 5. 

Hallucinate. Causes an enemy DG to see double/tripple/qaudruple of all other DGs for 4/6/8 seconds. 

Ability 6. 

Monsters of the Realm. AoE nuke that does 600/1000/1400/1800 and 1 second stun. Can only be used in the dream realm, and forces the Dreamer to leave it. 

Ability 7. 

Trance. Focuses nearby allies' minds, increasing their damage and movement speed by 10/20/30% for 5 seconds. 

Ability 8.

Illuminate. Passive ability, making her normal attack reduce enemy armour by 200/400/600 for 2 seconds. 

id like a big ass dragon/hydra plz kthx?

but a big flying/gliding/floating fiery dragon thats really slow but useful for melee would be very awsome indeed

could have an aoe cone breath attack, a divebomb attack, tail whip mabye, or something iunno id just like a big lumbering dragon to mess around with as an assassin or even a general dragon would be cool. lotsa little dragon minions