Do you mean kill her 1 on 1? or win the game 1 on 1?

I know that she is tough to beat when she is buffed for self healing to the max. But that also means she has a soft bite so your survivability goes up as well. I'd rely on this fact and then work the metagame to secure your objectives in ways other than just "hero kills". Strategic takedowns of buildings and key timely city upgrades come to mind. After all it's a map control game.

I've been on the winning and losing side of games where the side that got the most hero kills still soundly lost. The team that won usually just played the map better.

Sedna should be weak against generals with damage priority minions, since she has no AoE to speak of. And her higher healing spells cost quite a lot of mana.

So my bet would be on Erebus or Oak.

Hi, first post on these forums ^^

Anyway, I play sedna almost exclusively and so far I think I'm decently good at it. So I got to thinking of the ways I usually die.

While sedna has high regen, its more to slow the damage than prevent it (unless you are far under her level), so really once she starts taking hits she will need to use heal.

Things that mess with cooldowns (stuns, frost TB, interrupts) are extremely deadly if timed right. 6 seconds is a long time to wait for the next heal considering you were already damaged when you attemtpted to use it.

She also doesn't have much defense against minions, the only AoE is the heal. It comes in later in the game, and for only 200 dmg (assuming you didn't interrupt it).

Finally, she has severe mana problems early on, limited range to engage towers, and no utility (slows, stuns, teleports).



I just played a 1v1 crucible against UB that lasted about an hour. While I did win, there were a few deaths when he was able to stun me. Most of the time it was impossible to outrun him, while he could escape quite a few times. Also I think if he had rushed the towers earlier he could have killed my fortress before I got his, as I spent all my money buying mana gear with no time to upgrade creeps.

I haven't played many similar matchups against good opponents, but I would imagine these would be the toughest ones.

Tower spec Rook
Oak with minions
Regulus with slow 

You can't kill Sedna, but she can't kill you either. Balanced.

Funny I played UB vs Sedna last night on Crucible (me Sedna) and I got crushed.  UB just spit on me then used his auto-attack and he did damage much faster than I could heal...or I would run out of mana.  He just capped the one flag that was available to fight over and then never let me cap it back--if I tried, he would show up and whip my butt.  My totem priests either were bugged and would never heal me...or he did dmg so fast I never noticed.

Either he was a very good UB, or I suck at Sedna.  Or both.  Perhaps you guys can tell me how you are beating UB with her.

one of the keys here is... win before your game takes 2hrs =p Be bolder, and more aggressive, especially early on, and especially on the small maps.  On a big map, errors are recoverable.  On a small map, errors quickly turn to entrenched advantages.

But at 2hrs, that must be at the least lv20 DGs, with plenty of (if not entirely) expensive items and upgraded citadels... you generally want to win before that point if possible... as well as be familiar with all the little pro-tips, like how to restrict targetting to a DG, concealing yourself in a creep wave, target priority, and attack stacking... at that late in the game, not being able to take out a creep wave quickly is more deadly than the enemy dg.

you're a general, so use that.

Harass him with creeps when he is away from the flag and micromanage the units while you're sitting at the flag. Run away with the unit's he's currently attacking. He'll eventually get them but that costs him time.

If UB sits on the flag, harass him with sedna but be sure that he won't get you. Be a coward. Meanwhile, use your minions to kill creeps and gain XP while UB is sitting around. Also use your minions as a zone to retreat to, so make sure that they don't kill themselves on the fixed defenses.

I once pulled of the creep harass successfully with a UB. Managed to lure him in reach of defenses a couple of times, but he survived, of course. The damaged UB didn't survive the Sedna that came back from getting that lonely flag on Crucible and punced him.

Ragequit.

Some advice:

1. Warlords Punisher: Mana burn + damage hits her pretty hard.
2. Stun effect.  Unclean beast for instance can grapple with her to cancel a heal.  Use it wisely.
3. Increase your normal DPS significantly if you can.  If she HAS to spend all her time healing, then you can make up the difference in normal attacks.
4. Remember that she dispells:  If you are using UB, then hit her with the spit right after she heals, not before.  Melee her until then, and then grasp her when she tries to heal again.  You can get 14 seconds of no heal in there, and you just got to make it work after that.

And lastly.. remember that killing a DG isn't the same as winning the game.  While it may be hard to kill her, she probably isn't going to do that well killing you back.

orly? at least in mid-game, her yetis don't seem so awful...

I also like Senda the best. But honestly the smart move, is a Tank rook, Who can simply ignore her as a nuisance and take towers (making her useless). Also a speed unclean beast that focuses not on hp drain abiliteis but on stat boosting who boost damage by late game it deals so much retarded damamge Sedna has trouble.

Not to say thats a perfect coutner if I see rook I just go speed sedna and dominate flag control. And against unclean beast that does damage dealing I just pop Yetis to kill troops while engaging him with sedna intoao draw. which alows me to slowly creep the map.

Right now my best friend is working on ways to beat me 1v1. it probably wont tak ehim long I will post when he succeeds. 

the shield nice but loses effectiveness over time. End game its tissue paper, Heal is usuefull early game and late game the 50 hp regen Makes Sedna very hard to finish off

I play panth almost exclusively and I play for light so I haven't had to fight her much. That's what I'd try though.

The other nice effect about the WP with that matchup is that it would help the UB creep without even getting close enough to get pounced.

Most characters played well can take out even the most durable Sedna, or force her to run.  UB probably has one of the hardest times because of his often reliance upon venom spit, which is only useful early in the game against Sedna.  You really have to push your speed advantage, diseased claws and foul grasp.  Probably best not to use Venom Spit at all, and instead focus on Bestial Wrath.  She is quite vulnerable to burst damage, and if you open with a bestial wrath and then go into a foul grasp you will have a good chance at interupting her .5 second heal.  If this happens, she is done for.  She cannot match your speed and passive health regen alone...or even healing alone if she gets it off will not be enough to fight your damage.

Her healing is great but she needs to have downtime for the passive stuff to take hold.  On Crucible you could fight her at the bottom flag (gold flag) without worrying about her retreating into towers, she will never make it back to them in time.  And you dont have to worry about creep interference either because they don't go down there.  I know it's all easier said than done, but Sedna will go down to heavy pressure.  You just need to get her into a situation where she cannot pull back to a tower.

She does do decent direct damage though, so she will hurt you.  but a health pot or two, and later a heart of life can really help you to keep the pressure on and not let up.

Basically, don't give Sedna a chance to regen her health and mana.  Keep the pressure on.

Now multiple Sednas....your on your own.  Two Sednas can deal with just about anything I think.