Yeah, it'd probably be better if the items were percentage based, but I definitely find that the minion enhancing items are better to be used on Erebus and Oak.

I would also think minions aura work for there idols mobs ??

So sedna heal aura and speed/health aura works for boths her yetis and her 6 other idol minions.

Don't forget that with Wild Swings the Yetis damage nearby enemies for 75% damage.

Just something to keep in mind before you go dismissing Minion +damage on Sedna

Possibly... but if you are thinking in terms of how many minions she has compared to other DG's the Yetis with Wild Swings are worth a lot more than 1 for purposes of this calculation.

That was my point all along

You also have to think about AOE-Spells... Tbs Firenova deals 800 damage to minions... that means that 10 minions will get all in all 800 damage and 4 minions just 3200.... also, the small minions will instandly die, the bigger ones may not.

Bump, now that people are having a hard time with erebus minion build i thought good to brin this topic back to live.

Shhhhh... Don't give up the secrets...

You missed the part about it being a minion swarm Erebus.

Fighting on the internet is like winning at the special olympics.

Even when you win you are still Retarded.

Enjoy getting farmed by minion swarms.

hey man, it's okay take a load off

The concept you seem to be missing about a minion swarm build is the huge cost. No BotF or Duelling skills, Idols instead of items and the need to stay within ear shot of reinforcement battles in order to level.

Now without BotF, and at least Banded to kick the game off Snipe is somewhat effective and with Scaled Helm totally spammable.

The mistake people make with Snipe is shooting at someone with BotF, Banded and/or Priests and expecting to be more effective than a mosquito bite.

A minion swarm General often does not even have the benefit of a nearby priest as they are busy suiciding themselves into towers and like it or not minions all have a relatively high cost to get out, even for Erebus as it is a good two creep waves to replenish the army which is a minute of hanging around the frontline with 3 Snipes worth of health and no cash. Then of course a General basically needs to hang by the front lines anyway in order to level.

Much better is to take Hitpoint and Armor items, BotF and rank I Priests as early as possible. Pick up Bite so you can drive DG's off instead of being driven off the frontline then be patient skilling up minions handling all the tanking of towers yourself.

An Erebus that can Bite, tank a tower, regen and priest heal through Snipes with a relatively powerful dps force in his army is a force to be reckoned with and totally not a MINION SWARM build.

Please keep things in context, Every Assassin has ways to counter the aforementioned problem(quoted below for clarity) which is giving new players a hard time at the moment. Snipe is an excellent example of one such technique. Even a minion swarm Erebus will be sane enough not to suicide along with his minions into a tower.

Erebus is easily one of the most effective Demigods due mostly to the cheap cost of skill points to get a highly effective synergy of abilities Teleport/High Regen/slow/armor debuff and heal. This allows an Erebus to have the skills needed to slay Demigods of every variety and leaves more than enough points to max out minions.

While each trick is relatively pale compared to it's counterpart in other Demigods no other Demigod can get them all and still max out minions.

The problem people face with the dedicated minion build Erebus is assuming he is as resilient as every other Erebus they have come across. Most minion Swarm Erebus builds forgo even bite in order to skill up their minions as quickly as possible.

It is entirely possible for a single Snipe specced Reg to push out a minion LE. If you are going crazy awesome powerful minion build, you ignore your own hp stacking and even early mana stacking in favor of more minions and minion boosting items. And healing idol will only heal for between 150-300 on a pure general every 8 seconds. Snipe can do 250+ every 10-12 seconds. So at level one it isn't such a big deal. But by snipe 2 or 3 it is.

Both myself and a friend have started using minion Oaks and LEs heavily and around level 6 we still only have 2k HP or so. Unless we're doing really good we normally won't have the gold for any hp items till level 10 or so. By this level I know I don't dare get close to the front line and only snatch flags if no one else is around. He has to be more risky with LE but he does the same as well.