Erebus is overpowered because he can drain health every 7 secs, and he also gets to teleport.

Torchbearer is overpowered because he has tons of ranged nuke damage and can wipe grunts like no tomorrow.

Rook is overpowered because he can set up tower farms and level up super fast.

Sedna and QoT are overpowered because of their healing rates and ability to shield.

Unclean beast is overpowered because his spit does too much damage and is ranged, plus he can blow up grunts.

Regulus mines and long range make him overpowered too.

So far, I don't think I've seen a post about Oak being overpowered, so maybe don't play as him.

For oak being overpowered: You just can't kill him!

You kill him, and he comes back with a vengence and kicks your ass.

I'm truely sorry to everyone who is reading this post. I played this guy earlier today as TB and I destroyed him without even trying. He left after I had killed him three times. I guess that's what I get for going against a person who is either new to the game, or completely clueless.

OP needs brain surgery.

oak owns tb u moron

Torch bearer is op... lol.. your mental dude. I eat TB for breakfast , even really good ones.

It's actually very balanced. However, there are MANY factors which IMBALANCE a situation, that you have not considered.

1) First, the demigod you played, and the build you played. There are certain builds for different demigods that Torch Bearer can easily destroy. On the latter side, there are demigod builds that thrash Torch Bearer. As we all know, you have played every DG, know every strategy inside out and have thoroughly played and tested this to find how to beat torch bearer. (lol)

2) Micro-management. Probably a big one. The demigod that can perform the most tasks in smallest amount of time, farm most efficiently, and spend as little trips outside of lanes to reduce lost XP/gold, will win. This comes down further into a mathematic grind; Knowing your opponents level, his gear, what hes capable of, and what to expect. Then, knowing yourself, what you're capable of. Then mathematics kicks in, knowing what level nukes he has, how much damage they do, how much damage you do, and knowing how much HP you need to kill him without getting killed by any auto-attack/skill. You have to account for everything. Then, knowing when NOT to fight based off of this information, as to not feed.

3) Third, and essential to demigod, TEAMWORK. This is a MULTI-PLAYER GAME, revolving around TEAM WORK. If your team sucks (and this part is OUT of your control), then you will PROBABLY lose. A SUPERIOR team, will beat an INFERIOR team. You completely neglect to point out your teammates, their teammates, and how their mistakes can topple upon yours, to exponentially increase the failure of your loss. If you're playing with only yourself in mind, and the most farmed demigod from the other team, YOU FAIL. If you play 1v1, it really cycles back to the multi-player game argument, and the first two points; How your build counters theirs, along with how well you micro-manage.

4) Fourth, probably most importantl as well, SKILL. Yeah, that's right. If your opponent knows the game better than you, outplays you, out-micromanages you, plays to out-gear your demigod based on counter tactics, and has a superior team, YOU WILL HAVE A TENDENCY TO LOSE. CRY MORE.

5) Just for added clarification, all of your conclusions are based upon YOUR experiences against a torch bearer. Not a COMPLETELY balanced situation accounting for ALL of the above said factors, just your unorganized experiences of losing. My experiences differ. I know how to fight a torch bearer. I can micro-manage properly. I never tolerate pugs. I can say i'm pretty decent at this game. I don't have any significant problems against torch bearer, even with classes that normally are difficult to play against him with.

tl;dr - you suck.

Dear GPG, paper is far to powerful, and needs to be nerfed

sincerley, rock

p.s. scisors is fine

ok, 2 things. first of all, learn to spell. second learn to play. maybe if circle of fire is to powerful, you shouldnt stand in it. or interupt it, since its one of the most obvious atacks in the game.

What you fail to realize however, is that this game is balanced around team work, not 1v1. Different demigods fare in different ways, because they all don't act the same. They were made to fight in conjunction with one another to compensate for all of their downfalls, and even synergize their strengths into what makes their setup very strong. You can't balance it around 1v1 without it having a negative effect upon the team balance/

And even then, you base this around YOUR experiences. I've come to find 1v1 very balanced, and completely based around skill vs skill. Superior player is the one who wins, nothing too complex about that. You lost, it means you need to learn.

Okay, so maybe it's not 1v1 thats imbalanced. It's YOU that is an imbalance. If you fight someone thats good, and you suck, that is not an issue with the game. You lost because of a gap in skill, not a fault in the stability of balance.

Honestly, I doubt anyone pro joined your game. If anything, they're decent players. Instead of fighting people who suck, fight people who ARE actually good, and LEARN. You won't learn anything by playing people that have nothing more to show than you yourself do.

Against random people, whos skill level you don't REALLY know. Using ONE demigod against a combination of demigods. There are a-lot of factors neglected here. 

This. The only way to improve is to play against good players. For instance, my team got 2nd in the ESL 3v3 tourney 2 weekends ago. However, we lost the last match because it was against the best players in the esl demigod league that day. We lost, yes, but we gained knowledge and some insight on how we should have gone about trying to defeat a dual support with rook team. For instance, my sedna partner, as soon as the match was over said that he probably should have picked up silence(he plays sedna as pure support, only picks up pounce towards the last few levels) instead of pounce. Silence would have given me and my oak partner time to burst through the qot's shield and kill him before the sedna could heal.

Best advice you can give to new players is after you learn the basics in single player, play against GOOD players, it is the only way you will learn how to truely play the game.

For clarification, yes I am tooting my own horn >.<.

My team got third in the 2v2, and I know exactly why we lost and what we could have done to prevent it. It was more or less a mistake on our part rather than ignorance of the game, but a combination of both none the less that we'll throw back to the next cup. Pretty confident we'll place top 3 again. :F

get a room