Their 5v5 most likely isn't working because of the person with the highest ping too.  For now, the backbone is too borked for it to really work, but once its fixed high pingers will still be prone to lag 5v5 games down.

It's like a car with no engine (networking code) and old, used, crappy oil (high pingers) not running well.  Yeah, for the time being the car won't start because there's no engine, but even when the engine gets replaced the car most likely isn't going to run well with the crappy oil.  So if someone points out you have crappy oil, it's still a problem, even if the real problem is you have no engine.

it is fps ur thinking off  high ping in a fps means ur dude slows down and u get killed

  karma for Taurus

Seriously, insulting an entire country because a few players kick you for what is truly a legitimate reason is lame on an epic scale.

Yes Zeh, I was being "satiring"; could'nt help it.  How can you not make jokes about guys arguing about the size of their pings.

Sorcerous, your French-Canadian?  So you get good pings playing with people in Canada and France? 

lulz, how is that gonna help you from not getting kicked, what they know that you will complain about it now?

liq3 is a iddiot  i think that is enough said

Advanced reaction times are multi-stumli reactions, such as multiple lights shown in quick succession and the brains ability to react to them accordingly. A video game such as Demigod brings complex, multi-factor decision making into the process which dramatically increases the reaction time as things have to be considered. If every human was able to react to everything and make completely rationalised and thoughtout decision in 3 tenths of a second the number of road fatalities that occurs each year would be a mere fraction of what it currently is.

http://www.visualexpert.com/Resources/reactiontime.html

What you're referring to in your 'counter-example- is a single outcome reaction that requires zero thinking - you'd be waiting, hand on mouse, ready to give the move order the moment a player moves their Demigod into your viewing space. I'd be surprised if this took much more than 1 and a half tenths of a second, frankly. However, this is not a decision based reaction as there was no decision to be made - you already made it prior, now you're waiting to 'click'. Your example is a great example of visual stimuli and the following brain-to-muscle reaction time, however a bad example of complex decision making reaction speeds. A better 'counter-example' would have been:
You and a fellow Demigod are damaged and mana-drained after working down a creep wave. Your ally has 1350 HP left and you have 950, and you both are nearly out of mana. An Enemy demigod with 2400 HP enters the battle. Do you attack or run? The following factors need to be considered in whatever order your brain will work through them:
1. Who will the enemy attack first?
2. Will you recover enough mana during the fight, if you fight, to use any of your abilities?
3. Is the enemy Ranged or Melee?
4. General of Assassin?
5. What abilities does the enemy have available?
6. Level advantages.
7. If you have any previous encounters so far, what do you know about this player in this game?
8. How far do you need to go to get back to your base?
9. If you have any pots, will they make enough of a difference to warrant using them? (has additional factors)
10. Where is your next Creep wave?
11. Where is the other enemy Demigod?
12. What abilities does your Team Mate have?
13. What items do you have equiped?

Working through most of that in less than 7 tenths of a second in-game would be quite the achievement, assuming your math skills are up to scratch. On average, ignoring further external factors such as stress or 'pressure' of a difficult match, temperature, fatigue, etc., I'd wager around 800ms is a fair, if slightly generous, average. If I could process every single factor in a decision in 3 tenths of a second, I would play in Speed Chess Championships were people with significantly above average decision making reaction speeds have the advantage as they have to consider literally hundreds of possible outcomes in mere seconds.

Well, we're both right as technically I'm referring to situational reaction time and your referring to stimuli response time. Two different yet simillar concepts with obviously differently results. Nice to have a discussion where the other person didn't result to 'n' word - cheers

Now, back to the topic at hand!
It's true that international connections are more likely to be unstable as not only do they have to travel further, they have to be routed multiple times thus increasing the chances of an unstable connection. However, it's still possible for a local connection to be just as unstable. The problem, however, is because of the limited data of the lobby it's difficult to see ping spikes because it's merely sending small pieces of information rather than the, in comparison, large amounts of information that is transfered during a game. The only real solution would be to include some kind of connection test, where it sends a stimulated piece of information multiple times to test for lag spikes and rates a persons connection based on their performance. I don't think simply banning international users from your games is a real solution - it's more of a work around.

ok you people rly don't get this stuff.

Player 2 Player means that if they have high ping SO DO YOU.

most people are thinking of normal server based gameplay. This is different, the ping in this instance is the distance between you 2. 

For instance, some guys ping is 500, well to him I have 500 also. So in essence your "high pingers" also include yourself. GJ

QFT

lag is a term used where the computer freezes and then continues some time later when an action is performed, for example clicking a mouse button. If there is different latency, such as distance between computers connecting, the term used is delay

Input lag is a phenomenon associated with some types of LCD displays, and nearly all types of HDTVs, that refers to latency, or lag measured by the difference between the time a signal is input into a display and the time it is shown by the display. This lag time has been measured as high as 68ms.

Latency is the time a frame or a packet takes to travel from the source station to the final destination.

Latency has three sources:

• the time it takes the source NIC to place voltage pulses on the wire, and the time it takes the destination NIC to interpret these pulses.
• the actual propagation delay as the signal takes time to travel through the cable. Typically, this is about 0.556 microseconds per 100 m for Cat 5 UTP. Longer cable and slower nominal velocity of propagation (NVP) result in more propagation delay.
• based on network devices that are in the path between two devices. such as routers, switches or other end devices.

ping is a computer network tool used to test whether a particular host is reachable across an IP network; it is also used to self test the network interface card of the computer, or as a speed test.

Ping measures the round-trip time and records any packet loss, and prints when finished a statistical summary of the echo response packets received, the minimum, mean, max and in some versions the standard deviation of the round trip time.

hopefully that cleared up some peoples understanding.

Why dont you guys start a new thread with all this reaction time BS =P.

You're bogging down the insults on liq3!