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AI's a stupid n00b...!

May 14, 2009 1:52:30 PM from Stardock ForumsStardock Forums

So there we were, near the end of the game, me and two bots plus giants etc, beating the hell out of their citadel. Their three GDs were low on health and retreated. Then what happened? My two 'stupid n00b' bots decided to follow them...

 

What happened next was predictable. I was suddenly surrounded by three enemy DGs and a bunch of giants etc, and couldn't retreat quick enough. After respawn, the enemy was heading in force towards our citadel. Instead of consolidating behind towers, what did the bots do? Yep, they went right out into the middle and got slaughtered... WTF? I couldn't get out of the way and was over-run in seconds. All the time I was waiting to respawn I could see the citadel going... By the time I got back it was too late

 

Defeat snatched from the jaws of victory by n00b bots.

Number of kills for their DGs were 16,11,11 - I had 18, my two bots 4 and 0.

I've only had this game a few days but if this is the best the AI can do I'm going to get irritated real quick.

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Reply #1 May 14, 2009 2:01:26 PM
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The AIs don't do too good on the overall "this is what we need to do to win" level. On Dominate they don't focus on flag capturing, which is the only victory condition. Basically, the AI is scripted to just control its Demigod without much regard for the overall state of the game or objectives.

I've lost count how many times we've crushed the enemy team, and instead of pushing forward while they were respawning, all of my AIs walked back to base to shop, leaving me there alone when the enemy team respawned.

Don't expect much out of them

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Reply #2 May 14, 2009 3:46:55 PM
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Your correct. So Don't play with bots. Or you'll lose.    

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Reply #3 May 14, 2009 3:55:33 PM
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Am I the only one that suck badly enough that the Bots actually help me win? lmao  

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Reply #4 May 14, 2009 4:04:45 PM
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Sometimes the dice lands in your favor and the enemy team AI is worse than yours, so in those cases they aren't actually dead weight

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Reply #5 May 14, 2009 10:28:46 PM
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If you make a custom match with hard ai vs hard AI you will win all the time. If you do the campaign against hard AI your AI will feed the enemy AI so much it's impossible to win! Seriously, I had 40 kills, my AI 0 and the enemy about 10-15 each all against the other and they still won in the end. I think in campaign Hard mode your AI gets set to normal and you get trounced roundly each and every time!

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Reply #6 May 14, 2009 10:49:20 PM
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As has been said, the AI really isn't smart enough.

However, the tougher AI levels get some big cheats going for them. The Nightmare AI begins with some 4 times the gold at start than players, I believe. (Try starting a match with starting gold set to highest, and fear the AI with some 160,000 gold of equipment.)

During really long games, this can actually become a game winner, as the AI *can* become impossible to beat at some point simply because their gear far surpasses what you can afford.

 

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Reply #7 May 15, 2009 8:17:22 AM
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as the AI *can* become impossible to beat at some point simply because their gear far surpasses what you can afford.

Regulus, Sedna, and UB are I think the biggest offenders here. If you give these guys the artifact shop on Nightmare, Sedna becomes unkillable even with 3-4 demigods beating on her because her regen is insane, and Regulus and UB just shred you to bits with artifacts in 2-3 seconds.

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Reply #8 May 15, 2009 9:28:34 AM
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I think my favorite was an AI Rook chasing down a UB player, dealing 500 damage twice a second, then tanking several towers where UB died, then beating down the other two players who came to help. Then it walked out with fully 2/3rds of its health left.

 

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Reply #9 May 15, 2009 9:34:12 AM
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That I haven't seen yet

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Reply #10 May 15, 2009 12:21:30 PM
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I likey the AIs

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Reply #11 May 15, 2009 8:11:53 PM
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Quoting Annatar11,
reply 7

as the AI *can* become impossible to beat at some point simply because their gear far surpasses what you can afford.
Regulus, Sedna, and UB are I think the biggest offenders here. If you give these guys the artifact shop on Nightmare, Sedna becomes unkillable even with 3-4 demigods beating on her because her regen is insane, and Regulus and UB just shred you to bits with artifacts in 2-3 seconds.

Erebus is the worst.. god it's impossible to kill him unless you can stun him for like 10 solid seconds.

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