Admit you're too much of a wuss to play against a potentially good team - them being premade has zero effect on whether or not the team can play good or bad.  You simply use it as an excuse instead of admitting that you and your own team didn't work together well enough.

Premade's do not make your team worse.  You make your team worse.

Wow, so much hate in the forums. GG guys. I agree with OP. Premades are too afraid to play against other premades.

@Aviyur: So play with your friends and state in the topic that you are premade. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

@Lumifly: I don't think he said he is afraid of playing against other good teams. I think what OP wants is some baseline to start from. If it's a premade then he wants the right to choose whether to join or not. Give him the choice to decide. Being sneaky about it is lame and lots of premades do it.

When a demigod in the game will be able to take down 2 demigods because he has huge amounts of skill, that will be the day when premades won't matter. This is not an FPS so stacking premades is an obvious advantage over PUGs. You can justify until the cows come home.

Pantheon and Skirmish are broken, with AI and uneven matches. Besides, there are premades in skirmish and pantheon who exploit the matchmaking system.

Oh that's complete bs and you know it. The fact is that premades have an advantage over pugs. The premades that don't announce that they are premades or at least say so when asked are the ones who don't want a challenge.

No one is saying custom isn't for playing with your friends. But at the same time people have the right to know if their opponents have an advantage over them. Once Demigod has a proper friend system the "premade problem" will disappear.

Blitz64: Does you having a girlfriend give you an advantage over girls that are looking for a boyfriend? The answer is no. In competition it is different. Should I wear a sticker saying "I take performance enhancing drugs" or only tell when people ask? Even then, some people might not tell the truth. People want a baseline and they deserve it. Please don't derail the thread.

If you're not a premade put "not a premade" in the title, please.

Let's all write essays instead of game names so everyone knows exactly what to expect at all times.

The next game I host will be:

"3v3 Not a premade, US, Cataract, I'm playing regulus (mines build), no doubles on the same team please, and someone on my team please get a capture lock to lock the middle flag, and someone else buy tower regen"

Seriously whats so hard? 3 vs 3.  Premade.  Done.

Exactly.  Which is why this whole nonsense of premade bashing needs to stop.  It is NOT A BAD THING to play a game with your friends, and it is not indicative of your skill level!  If you rematch with your team and have never played with them before that, youre a premade, but it says nothing about how good you are.

I think the only REAL issue is when people LIE about being good just to trounce new people.  If someone asks you, be truthful.

personally i think that people should get the f@#$ over it. it is a COMPETITIVE game. the only way you get better at this game is by playing better players.

seriously, if you dont want competition go play the sims 3, this is not a game for you.

this. if you join the game after this game title, it is your fault if you cant take it.

hint: if players from the same team are having a chat, it is very obvious they know each other and are a premade anyway.

Okay, apparently I need to clarify something, because people obviously aren't getting it:

No one has a problem with premades themselves. We understand perfectly well that the game was meant for team play, even though the game was released with no support for this. The problem we have is with people who don't announce that they are premades, because THEY are the ones looking for an easy win. No one is complaining about you playing with your friends. The problem is with premades who hide the fact that they are premades, and whether you admit it or not there are many teams like this.

they only have an advantage if they are experienced with the game and have some sort of good communication. But if they sucked in the first place that advantage won't mean anything.

Overall though, those premade teams that are making games just so they can stomp weaker players will not and do not care and unfortunately, nothing we can do will change that except to not play with them. I'm not saying don't play with any premade, I'm just saying if a group of players continuously and constantly make games to lure random and disorganized multi-skill leveled players in, then maybe you should not play with them.

I have started doing exactly this with my friends actually, mainly because we want a better game.  When I host by myself, I put in 'no premades' and when I host with friends, we put in 'premade' into title.

Honestly, stomping pugs isn't that much fun, unless you get a few good players, and it is a bit closer. We have not omitted the 'premade' tag in the past because we like stomping people, but rather because we thought after a while there would be better players on average, which didn't seem to be true.