Blah Blah Blah mudzis personly i hate snipe and i hate regulus. theres probly nothing wrong with his mine build. dont bagg it cous you like the overplayed cheapness kill steal build.

anyways question about the rook build.. why do you get tower one at the start? if its to ward of enimies i find hammerslam works pretty well...

Bad builds IMO.

UB is far stronger going Ooze and Foul Grasp. You can then drop Spit, need no mana item and can get more health. Hotly debated, but usually far stronger, the only exception being against a kiting Regulus.

Regulus with stats and mines is also a weak build. Mines are easily countered by good players, don't walk over them or move on animation. Scope 2 and 3 are junk for a skill point, simply not needed. Better off getting Mines and Snipe. Also, with all your snare skills, with the new patch they are wasted as you can only reduce to a maximum of 33% off base.

An ice TB with no Frost Nova? That is a pretty interesting build, personally I think you are better off dropping Deep Freeze, and going Frost Nova, which is far more useful to you and your team.

Rook I don't know as I don't play.

Sedna, hmmmmm, I think your mana requirements are too high, to be successful with this build and your recommended items. Might be ok though, and looks absolutely standard.

I understand the idea to go low on mana items and stack health. However, two of the DGs TB and Reg, rely heavily on mana and you are likely missing out a lot of damage and useful skills. With careful use of skills you can still maintain mana levels in combat.

Also, with starting items, Scale Mail is a pretty good choice too, better than scale helm. You can take a 200GP combat mana potion for extra mana.

How do you work that one out?

600 HP and 10 HP/sec, plus for generals it is awesome.

Seen as HP is the most important stat, this is a great little item for a lot of builds.

Hauberk is definitely the least efficient Health item in its price class.

Unbreakable Boots are better, Nimoth Chestguard is better. if you've already got both of those it can be worth it to get a Hauberk (especially if you're a general and you need minion health) but usually i skip it and continue saving for a Narmoth's Ring. or put the gold into the citadel. 

Terrible.

However, I think the point is that you will already have these items purchased, this is then a good upgrade.

I try never to save money in this game, it always goes on an item, if I have 2500 in the bank and a slot free and I am back at base, then I will get the hauberk, a couple of consumables and get back out there. Otherwise you just have to come back 1750 GP later to upgrade.(In the Narmoth ring comparison)

I find it is more effective to take what you can afford or upgrade to, and get back out, maximising time on creeps and fighting. Rather than trying to min/max your spending based on value for money

I dont play much of reg sedna rook or UB, but the TB build is pretty crappy. If your going to go full ice why wouldnt you get ice nova? from what I have played of the other dgs, the guids seam equaly bad. stats over skills like foul grasp and snipe is just stupid.

Oh I agree its always good to fill up open slots with cheap items to increase your instantaneous effectiveness, and sell them later once you can afford better stuff. However, the Hauberk is not cheap, not efficient, and therefore not good. Banded and Scalemail are far better for that purpose. Especially Scalemail. 

the Beast build isn't terrible. i think it would work better if you developed Ooze at some point. It can be developed earlier or later depending on game circumstances but i think its a mistake to not include it anywhere in the build order. 

the Regulus build seems incredibly poor. 1 point in Snipe for harassment and assist credit is obviously very important. most Mines builds will also make sure to get Mark of the Betrayer for the extra slowing and burst damage. it combines very well with Shrapnel Mines. 

the Torchbearer build seems almost good but its very strange to take points in Stats in preference of Frost Nova. 

the Rook build seems more or less ok. i've used something similar. i usually go up to Towers rank 2 though, and sometimes rank 3, depending on the map. other than that it seems fine. 

Sedna build doesn't make sense. not sure why you'd want to develop Inner Grace before maxing out Pounce. Inner Grace is a pretty mediocre passive skill whereas Pounce is the best (and only) damage skill you have. Sedna shouldn't be played as pure support. She's more of a Duelist than anything and you need Pounce to get those kills. 

the item choices look fine for the most part, but are quite generic. 

they do well, especially the torch bearer build.

You guys have some interesting comments that i will try in my next games.

Especially about the snipe I for reg, never thought of it like that.

Oh and for the 1 point in towers, its for early game (as i find its more effective than rank 1 slam) and also in the late game for your team mates to port to.

keep up the discussion!