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Frogboy
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Reply #76 July 19, 2009 12:41:04 PM
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Frogboy
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Reply #77 July 19, 2009 12:43:06 PM
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Quoting Vladesch,
reply 16

Quoting Polynomial, reply 7People who want to play PUG games play Pantheon/Skirmish. People who want to play against each other in groups play custom games.
 

This is just plain wrong.

Many people outside the USA choose custom games because of ping issues. It has nothing to do with playing in PUG's or premade teams.

http://forums.demigodthegame.com/34865

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Frogboy
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Reply #78 July 19, 2009 1:03:59 PM
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obscenitor, you acted earlier as if you knew everything about the stat system. well you don't. that aside, it's broken, so they have to do a lot of work anyway, and just cause it will take work doesnt mean they shouldnt have

 

custom rank

pantheon skirmish rank - potential team ranks maybe?

and a sandbox mode that doesnt count

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Reply #79 July 19, 2009 1:15:42 PM
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It makes no sense to have custom game rankings, whether separate from pantheon or not.  Each custom game can be so wildly different that they can be like comparing apples and oranges.

This is going to be even more true when mods are implemented.

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Reply #80 July 19, 2009 1:27:48 PM
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Which is why they should only count if the default settings are not changed.

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Frogboy
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Reply #81 July 19, 2009 1:37:14 PM
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Which is why they should only count if the default settings are not changed.

I think this should be limited to only if certain settings are changed from default.  Things like high gold and war rank (either initial or rate) shouldn't be ranked, but I don't think changing grunt strength or tower strength should make the game unranked.

I do think that if settings differ from default, the offending setting should be displayed in the lobby at all times.  I don't like it when people try to sneak past odd settings.

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Reply #82 July 19, 2009 2:21:17 PM
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I do think that if settings differ from default, the offending setting should be displayed in the lobby at all times. I don't like it when people try to sneak past odd settings.
100% agreed! I accidentally ended up in a level 20, filthy rich game once and was lucky enough to realize it just in time. Some guys on the other team didn't and the whole thing was over in 1:58 minutes. Very frustrating for everyone.

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Reply #83 July 19, 2009 2:46:35 PM
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I think Custom Rankings should stay in their own tab. By adding them to the over all ladder it dilutes the value of playing Pantheon and Skirmish. A lot of people don't bother playing Pantheon and Skirmish because they know it is easier to get your ladder rank up by playing Custom Games.

If you do add Custom Rankings to the over all ranks then I think there should be a tab for cumulative Pantheon Ranking because there currently is no way to track that.

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Frogboy
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Reply #84 July 19, 2009 2:55:15 PM
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As someone suggested, you should add a "sandbox" option to Custom Games(and a Random option.) And why are Pantheon and Skirmish seperate modes?

A Team Pantheon will not work if that's what it is. You would need a team off all dark players to find a evenly numbered team of all light players? It just doesn't make any sense. Why would you even want to limit yourself to a team where you can only choose four different Demigods? It would have to be Team Skirmish unless you revamp the whole system.

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Frogboy
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Reply #85 July 19, 2009 3:36:53 PM
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Dude, more demigods.

Dude, more buttons, like 5 buttons instead of 4 k.

Dude, way more maps, like 25 more maps.

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Reply #86 July 19, 2009 3:47:10 PM
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It would have to be Team Skirmish unless you revamp the whole system.
Well team pantheon would have a ton of issues if that were the standard for premade automatching.  I would say that sedna+UB is an incredibly popular combo right now and there would be an equally popular combo when that one were made impossible.  So that would mean that if the top players used that combo they would be inelligible to fight each other which would increase wait times and decrease ladder accuracy.

Then you have the four day long downtimes between pantheon seasons so unless skirmish is in good shape there's going to be major spillover into the same places they're trying to get premades out of.  I definitely agree the skirmish format is the way to go for competitive games and as-is pantheons should be a novelty.

 

 

 

 

obscenitor, you acted earlier as if you knew everything about the stat system. well you don't.
lol.
it's broken, so they have to do a lot of work anyway, and just cause it will take work doesnt mean they shouldnt have

custom rank

pantheon skirmish rank - potential team ranks maybe?

and a sandbox mode that doesnt count

If we have team automatch ranks why is there still a point to custom rankings? What is there to prove?

Ranking a less competitive game type would only be a spoiler for the primary ranked game type, and the only people who excelled in it would be the ones who game the system the hardest.

 

 

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Reply #87 July 19, 2009 3:51:18 PM
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Don't care.

 

Rankings don't make the actual game more fun, strategic, deeper, challenging or rewarding for me. I'm #1 in the world, whoopie. My epeen is little and I'm fine with that.

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Reply #88 July 19, 2009 3:53:00 PM
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I think this should be limited to only if certain settings are changed from default.  Things like high gold and war rank (either initial or rate) shouldn't be ranked, but I don't think changing grunt strength or tower strength should make the game unranked.
I don't think that's right at all to be honest.  Whenever I see high towers it's always a Regulus that's responsible, whenever I see high units it's always some clown with heaven's wrath or some other throw shit into the air power.

Changing units and towers dramatically changes the pacing of the game which shifts balance.  It's not the standard game, it shouldn't count.

I do think that if settings differ from default, the offending setting should be displayed in the lobby at all times.  I don't like it when people try to sneak past odd settings.
I agree 100%

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Reply #89 July 19, 2009 3:57:51 PM
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I'm pretty sure to sum up this whole thread is that we need a team automatch.

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Reply #90 July 19, 2009 4:01:07 PM
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Quoting Polynomial,
reply 14
I'm pretty sure to sum up this whole thread is that we need a team automatch.
You mean team automatch and unranked customs.

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Reply #91 July 19, 2009 4:08:28 PM
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Quoting bane_solemon,
reply 15

Quoting Polynomial, reply 14I'm pretty sure to sum up this whole thread is that we need a team automatch.
You mean team automatch and unranked customs.

Exactly.

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Reply #92 July 19, 2009 4:13:41 PM
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Quoting Shade,
reply 16

Quoting bane_solemon, reply 15
Quoting Polynomial, reply 14I'm pretty sure to sum up this whole thread is that we need a team automatch.
You mean team automatch and unranked customs.
Exactly.

Yes. They have to come at the same time.

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Reply #93 July 19, 2009 4:27:57 PM
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im using rank and stats interchangably, im sorry if that confused you obscenitor

 

i want ranked skirm, i want stats for custom - w/l, that stuff

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Reply #94 July 19, 2009 4:36:10 PM
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I don't think custom games should count.  If people want to play ranked games, then they should play the Skirmish or Pantheon modes.

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Reply #95 July 19, 2009 5:01:27 PM
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Quoting BlackJack666,
reply 19
I don't think custom games should count.  If people want to play ranked games, then they should play the Skirmish or Pantheon modes.

If this was a 1v1 game like CnC or SC.

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Reply #96 July 20, 2009 5:18:02 AM
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as for me: when you introduce a way to play pantheon/skirmish with friends, it will be good not to count wins/loses in custom games.

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Reply #97 July 20, 2009 6:56:44 AM
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What I've said all along.

Need:

Custom (doesn't count for anything... I can't remember ANY RTS where custom counted for anything).

Ranked 1v1 (automatch ie system picks your opponent).

Ranked Team (automatch ie system picks your opponent team).

Pantheon (random ranked).

Get rid of the names of people you're being matched up with AND the 3 minute timer before you can quit without loss.

Most RTSs have 2 ladders... team and 1v1.

But since DG has a weird Light/Dark thing, it has to have a 3rd I guess.

Personally, I don't see the point in it but whatever.

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Reply #98 July 20, 2009 8:23:22 AM
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My #1 would be: Fix the skirmish and pantheon matchmaking that got broken in the last patch.

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Reply #99 July 20, 2009 8:52:54 AM
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I think this is a good idea.  Custom games should count toward number of total games played, but should not count for win ratio.

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Reply #100 July 20, 2009 11:42:48 AM
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Quoting ,
quoting post

Real quick informal survey here.
When we get to Epoch 3 for Demigod, what do you think about changing it so that custom games no longer count wins and losses – only Pantheon/Skirmish games would.
The pre-requisites for Demigod: Epoch 3 are:
1. Satisfaction that the statistical tracking is very robust.
2. Better handling of Pantheon / Skirmish match making (something we would like your input to with regards to people quitting before the game starts and such).
3. Next Demigod update that addresses the LUA decompression issue that causes crashes for some people.

 

are you kidding?

the only thing needed is the option to join as a group

 

this is a coop game i wont be ever tired of repeating it

 

if you leave the only option to play alone into skirmish/pantheon i would stop playing at all like many friends of mine

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