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Reply #76 September 21, 2009 5:20:08 AM
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Quoting Bichur,
reply 75


It's not unreasonable to want a notification, I know I'd want it if something was done that affects me (be it removed or edited post, ban or whatever else).



 



who="Island Dog" reply="34" id="2378146"

In many cases a person will be warned via private message before it escalates any further.  However, that is not a given depending on what the actual person is doing.


 

That's not the same thing though. I don't object to banning/limiting people without prior warning. They should be notified if it happens though.

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Reply #77 September 21, 2009 5:45:13 AM
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We don't ban people for not double negatives. 

 

Also - their notification is them being unable to get to said forum.  A

 

Also - This thread is funny on a number of levels, none of them past level one.

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Reply #78 September 21, 2009 6:00:26 AM
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Quoting SnallTrippin,
reply 77
We don't ban people for not double negatives. 

 

Also - their notification is them being unable to get to said forum.  A

 

Also - This thread is funny on a number of levels, none of them past level one.

Right. Let's start doing that everywhere. Just do things without telling anyone who's affected. I'm sure the world will be a better place?

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Reply #79 September 21, 2009 6:10:27 AM
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Quoting Rishkith,
reply 25
Demigod is owned by Gas Powered Games and not Stardock who is just the Publisher.

Huh???? And? The forums for DG are apart of the greater forum structure of the Stardock forums. Stardock own the Demigod forums.

GPG has nothing to do with users rights on the forums. And SD are somewhat more than just the publisher....

Your point please?

They should be notified if it happens though.

Why? Brad owns these forums..there is no free speech or right to anything as has been pointed out ad nauseam.

If a user who has been subjected to some form of restriction on the forums and can't figure out the what and the why as to what has happened then that is their problem, not Stardocks.

Would you give someone being rude in your house reasons as to why you want them to leave?

Interesting thread. A point the Op may wish to know and pass on is that the Demigod forums are linked to around 12 other forums that are all under the Stardock banner. I'm posting from galciv2.com for an example. So what may be acceptable or unacceptable on one forum structure may well not be the case in another part of the network. Without knowing your friends post that caused his demotion i could no offer much of an example, he may have posted in the OT section on Demigod.com thinking his post was suited as such, but it would then be available to 12 different site, all with their own idea of what is accepted, as set by Brad and the mods. Nevertheless, he...you..i are not entitled to, by any rights or laws anything on the forums.

Posting is a privilege and the manner that we conduct ourselves is held to the standard of the private owner of the forums. If he doesn't like what we have to say....off we go.

If we don't like that, then we can choose not to post.

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Reply #80 September 21, 2009 6:17:13 AM
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Quoting mickeko,
reply 78



Quoting SnallTrippin,
reply 77
We don't ban people for not double negatives. 

 

Also - their notification is them being unable to get to said forum.  A

 

Also - This thread is funny on a number of levels, none of them past level one.


Right. Let's start doing that everywhere. Just do things without telling anyone who's affected. I'm sure the world will be a better place?

Yeah...drama queen's are cool.  LET'S JUST GO WILLY NILLY NOT TELLING PEOPLE THINGS THAT DO STUFF TO THEM!

I'm sorry, I'm tired and bored at work, but you make me amused and sad at the same time.  I like to call this "Pleasurable Pathos"

 

EDIT - The joke is pp.  Had to do it after reading tvtropes.org.

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Reply #81 September 21, 2009 6:20:54 AM
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Just do things without telling anyone who's affected. I'm sure the world will be a better place?

Is it something in the wording of "Privatley Owned" that folks are not getting.

The person/s in question who suffer such a restrictment know full well what they have posted.....no need to spell it out for them.

If you don't like that, buy/create your own forums and set such a rule that suits you.....

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Reply #82 September 21, 2009 6:30:06 AM
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Maybe the children of 50 years ago had more to be grateful for and respectful of, and the mores of that day and age were a lot more clearer, and not as confused. I was a child 50 years ago -- the future promised me by the generation before was a lot more generous than the future I can promise my children -- and my children don't even HAVE children, and don't plan on having any, because they can't provide for their own present, so it would be horribly selfish and unresponsible to bring a child into this world that they couldn't feed or care for. Why should the children of today be respectful of their elders who have saddled them with a debt they'll never be able to repay and the programs they pay into will go broke before they get a chance to use them? The children of today might have a lot of "things" but they're painfully aware of the fact that trend is about to come to a bleak, abrupt, halt very shortly.

Also, using the terms "Sir" and "Ma'am" these days can be sometimes be interpreted as insults. (I don't like being called Ma'am). Maybe it's safest not to use those terms. They're kind of between a rock and a hard place.

I'm going to raise the bullshit flag on this one.  This entire comment is an example of what's wrong with the U.S. today folks.  The "Why should I care, it's not my fault." attitude is what is ingrained in the youth of today.  "I don't have anything to be grateful for...waaaaaaaaaah!"  "I can't sit on my ass all day and do nothing....waaaaaaaaaah!"  The future you promise your children is only limited by how hard you work to make it.  The children of today want to do nothing but want everything in return and most parents are doing nothing about it.

The use of the terms Sir or Ma'am are only interpreted as insults by one type of person...the ignorant type.  I find that line to be a bunch of bullshit Ma'am.  Why isn't it "safe" to use them? 

This country has lost it's way entirely.  There is nothing left of what our great founding fathers worked so hard to build.  An example of where this country is going:  Kids can't name the first President of this country, arguably the greatest leader ever...but they can score 1,019,000 on Guitar Hero.  wtf?

 

 

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Reply #83 September 21, 2009 7:01:40 AM
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The 'side-effect' of 'modern living' should be more time with our children - not less.

Precisely.  There is no excuse, at all, for not spending time with your children.  None.  Period.  If more parents spent more time with their kids, this country would see a great turn-around in the attitude of our youth.  No valid excuse can be made for not spending time with your greatest creation.  Everything else you have or have done pales in comparison to the young child that you created.  And as creator, you have a responsiblity to instill in that young mind values, morals, respect, compasion etc...you have an obligation to make that young child a good human being, a good person.  You can't do that by not spending time with them.  It isn't possible.  So my comment from earlier stands (simplified for you lazy fucks). 

Raise your children.  Families are the anchor of a free society – work hard on yours.

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Reply #84 September 21, 2009 7:56:19 AM
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Let's get back to the important part of the thread: Making fun of others.

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Reply #85 September 21, 2009 9:23:11 AM
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Posting on these (and most other) forums is like visiting someone elses house.  You don't shit on the carpet and expect everything to be peachy.  You also don't whine when the owner boots you for such behaviour.

/excuse the language, it's just Jafo has explained forum 'rights' how many damn times???

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Reply #86 September 21, 2009 10:05:57 AM
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Quoting VarekRaith,
reply 85
Posting on these (and most other) forums is like visiting someone elses house.  You don't shit on the carpet and expect everything to be peachy.  You also don't whine when the owner boots you for such behaviour.

/excuse the language, it's just Jafo has explained forum 'rights' how many damn times???

If you boot someone out of a pub for example (also a private place), there tend to be less conflict if you tell the person why. It's common sense. How is that so hard to understand?

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Reply #87 September 21, 2009 10:49:51 AM
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The question is, why are you assuming this person hasn't been told? Because of second hand information given to you by someone you don't know who probably does not have all the facts themself?

You appear to be making a stance based very dubious information. At this stage it wouldn't matter what anyone said. Truth is the first casualty of fud spreading.

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Reply #88 September 21, 2009 11:29:03 AM
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A friend of a friend of this guy at the coffee shop's daughter who knows the garbage man's nephew told me that a group of mods went to this guy's house and beat him with wet noodles.  Then laughed at him and took away his posting privilages.

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Reply #89 September 21, 2009 11:35:35 AM
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Quoting Exterm123,
reply 88
A friend of a friend of this guy at the coffee shop's daughter who knows the garbage man's nephew told me that a group of mods went to this guy's house and beat him with wet noodles.  Then laughed at him and took away his posting privilages.

 

 

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Reply #90 September 21, 2009 11:39:56 AM
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It's common sense. How is that so hard to understand?

About as hard for others to understand that the person who owns that very same Pub, owns it outright and that using its facilities is a privilege and if they don't won't to tell you shit....then there is nothing you can do about but except it.

Folks seem to think that the forums are a place of democracy.

The question is, why are you assuming this person hasn't been told? Because of second hand information given to you by someone you don't know who probably does not have all the facts themself?

You appear to be making a stance based very dubious information. At this stage it wouldn't matter what anyone said. Truth is the first casualty of fud spreading.

This.

It's not like the "my friend" story holds a great deal of weight in any other part of society...why should here be any different?

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Reply #91 September 21, 2009 11:45:52 AM
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Quoting mickeko,
reply 86

Quoting VarekRaith, reply 85Posting on these (and most other) forums is like visiting someone elses house.  You don't shit on the carpet and expect everything to be peachy.  You also don't whine when the owner boots you for such behaviour.

/excuse the language, it's just Jafo has explained forum 'rights' how many damn times???
If you boot someone out of a pub for example (also a private place), there tend to be less conflict if you tell the person why. It's common sense. How is that so hard to understand?

 

....they never tell me why, next time I'm telling them they don't make sense! ...course it hasn't happened in years.

Conflict? There is no conflict, just comedy.  God internet people...anyway I'm bored of this fred.

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Reply #92 September 21, 2009 12:45:16 PM
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A friend of a friend of this guy at the coffee shop's daughter who knows the garbage man's nephew told me that a group of mods went to this guy's house and beat him with wet noodles. Then laughed at him and took away his posting privilages

I think I know someone who knows a friend of this guy, they thought it was wet celery, but I couldn't swear to it

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Reply #93 September 21, 2009 12:54:49 PM
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Well then, it wasn't very classy to do something to be be restricted either.

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Reply #94 September 21, 2009 12:55:33 PM
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Quoting Fuzzy Logic,
reply 87

You appear to be making a stance based very dubious information.

The only thing I've said is that the moderators should tell people when they do changes to a user profile. If they ban someone, I think it's only fair to let them know if it's a time limited ban or a permanent one. Since there has been nothing said against the statement that no information was sent, I accept it as true.

But really, it doesn't matter at all. I think users should be informed, period. If they did or did not do it is really irrelevant. If they did, great, things are as they should. If they didn't (which seem to me as being how things are done around here. This isn't the first time I've read a comment on the issue), it should be changed. A copy & paste PM telling what has been done at least. "You didn't follow the forum rules so your account has been suspended/restricted for the duration of 14 days/permanently" for example.

And I'm well aware that Stardock could decide to just kill off the entire forum if they like, or randomly ban people. I'm not trying to tell them what they can or can't do, just what I believe they *should* do.

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Reply #95 September 21, 2009 1:08:02 PM
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Since there has been nothing said against the statement that no information was sent, I accept it as true.

No-one has said that the soup dragon doesn't exist, so I accept that it does

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Reply #96 September 21, 2009 1:14:59 PM
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Quoting Fuzzy Logic,
reply 95

Since there has been nothing said against the statement that no information was sent, I accept it as true.
No-one has said that the soup dragon doesn't exist, so I accept that it does

Well, if you ask people the question you'll have plenty of poeple telling you it doesn't exist. But regardless of that, you're allowed to believe whatever you want, as long as you don't con people into believing it'll come eat them.

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Reply #97 September 21, 2009 1:24:47 PM
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Quoting Fuzzy Logic,
reply 92

I think I know someone who knows a friend of this guy, they thought it was wet celery, but I couldn't swear to it

See, now that's how rumors get started.  Shame on him.

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Reply #98 September 21, 2009 2:34:34 PM
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What happened to policing one's own damn behaviour?  What is it with people these days believing the onus is on the other party to notify one when one's actions, speech or attitude is unacceptable?

Anyone who claims he/she doesn't KNOW when they're out-of-line is full of shit!   Period.

 

the Monk

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Reply #99 September 21, 2009 3:01:02 PM
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Quoting the_Monk,
reply 98

Anyone who claims he/she doesn't KNOW when they're out-of-line is full of shit!   Period.

There's a difference between knowing when your actions are out-of-line and being aware of it happening though. And it seems you're not very good at policing yourself, considering your own hostile post is out-of-line in itself.

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Reply #100 September 21, 2009 3:14:03 PM
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Your mom is not very classy.
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