Wogrim

Join Date 08/2009

The Storm Rook

Your Hammer is the Thunder, and Your Towers are the Lightning.
You Storm your Way into Enemy Territory, and Smite Mortals with One Blow.
You are the Storm Rook, Master of th....

Alright, enough with this silliness; let's get down to business.

Build Philosophy: Dps. To go a little more in-depth on this, we're gonna look at all the skills. Some of these numbers I'm pulling from a page that may be outdated and others are from my sometimes-incorrect memory; please correct any misinformation.

Slam (not subject to armor):

Level 1: 500 damage in 1.5 sec = 333 dps during the cast, or adds 50 net dps via 10s cd
Level 2: 900 damage in 1.5 sec = 600 dps during the cast, or adds 90 net dps via 10s cd
Level 3: 1300 damage in 1.5 sec = 867 dps during the cast, or adds 130 net dps via 10s cd
Level 4: 1700 damage in 1.5 sec = 1133 dps during the cast, or adds 170 net dps via 10s cd

Boulder Roll(not subject to armor):

Level 1: 200 damage in 0.4 sec = 500 dps during the cast (net dps is poor, but since it stuns and since you want to burst dps someone to kill them, it's very forgivable)
Level 2: 300 damage in 0.4 sec = 750 dps during the cast (net dps is poor, but since it stuns and since you want to burst dps someone to kill them, it's very forgivable)
Level 3: 400 damage in 0.4 sec = 1000 dps during the cast (net dps is poor, but since it stuns and since you want to burst dps someone to kill them, it's very forgivable)

Towers (subject to armor):

Level 1: 100 damage per 2 seconds = 50 dps per tower; 100 dps for full farm
Level 2: 130 damage per 2 seconds = 65 dps per tower; 260 dps for full farm
Level 3: 160 damage per 2 seconds = 80 dps per tower; 480 dps for full farm
Level 4: 190 damage per 2 seconds = 95 dps per tower; 760 dps for full farm

Shoulders (subject to armor):

Archers: 60 dps, upped to 144 dps when you get Tower of Light (unless I'm reading the page wrong?)
Tower of Light: 50 dps
Trebuchet: 50 dps, and 2x (I think) as much against structures

God Strength (subject to armor):

50 damage per level, dps ranges from 32 (at level 5, the soonest you can get it) to 43 (at level 20) per level because base attack speed goes up, although it's actually going be around 26 to 34 dps because you'll be casting Boulder Roll and Hammer Slam some of the time.

The most important thing you should notice is that God Strength isn't that good, and is one of the last things to get. Compare it to Shoulders, and upgrading your Shoulders is always a better choice. Compare it to Slam, and you've got to get 8 hits (plus a bit more for armor reduction, so more like 10) to make up the damage you missed from a Slam upgrade; it can't even be done till late game with an attack speed item. Compared to towers, you definately want at least level 1 tower; past that, God Strength is better if you're fighting in an area without any of your towers, but in my experience they often have to confront you in your tower farm or you'll destroy their towers and take flags, so I always max towers before touching God Strength as well. GodStr outdoes the net dps on Boulder Roll, but I hope you guys know how awesome Boulder Roll is for me to not have to argue level 1 (more levels gets very mana-costly). What this all comes down to is don't get GodStr1 until level 13 or more.

So now that we've eliminated GodStr, it's pretty much between getting Trebuchet and Boulder Roll. Boulder Roll is often too useful to pass up, but sometimes (usually because of teammates stunning and/or slowing enemies, or they avoid you altogether because of your tower farm) you don't need it, so Trebuchet gives you a bit more dps in fights and does very good damage (100 dps) to their towers.

1 Tower1
Yup. No choice here
2 Shoulder1 or Slam1
You can use Slam1 to keep minions off your towers. It's better if you can avoid using mana on that though.
3 Slam1 or Shoulder1
Whichever you didn't get.
4 Tower2
The main reason to delay Slam2 is that the damage usually isn't worth the extra 160 mana (while Tower2 costs the same).
5 Shoulder2
Tower of Light is pretty much a no-brainer in any build because it costs no mana and adds a LOT of dps (buffs Archers for some reason)
6 Slam2
Slam2 is handy for clearing minions.
7 Tower3 or Slam3
You don't have Boulder Roll yet, so Slam is hard to land at this point since everyone's got their stuns and stuff by now.
8 Shoulder3 or Boulder1
Boulder Roll if you need it, Trebuchet if you don't.
9 Slam3 or Tower3
Whichever you didn't get already
10 Slam4 or Tower4
Slam4 hurts a lot. Tower4 usually isn't as good as Slam4, but the mana cost going from 400 to 200 is very convenient, expecially if you're using Boulder Roll.
11 Tower4 or Slam4
Once again, both are really useful, and you want both by now.
12 Shoulder3 or Boulder1
Boulder Roll is a must at this point. If you already have it, Trebuchet is recommended. You now have Boulder1, Shoulder3, Tower4, and Slam4.

The rest I'll leave to you; just don't blame my build on whatever stupid choices you may make.

Before we get to the regular items, I will now unleash my Favor Item choice....

Heaven's Wrath (remember, you're a Storm Rook)

If you know how to use it, great; if not, bummer. I'm not up for explaining all the nuances of using this item, so I'll list the 2 most important ones: clearing creeps near your towers, so that the massive dps of your tower farm focuses on the more important targets, and killing a wave of creeps so that you get exp in situations where it would be wasted because no one on your team is there (you're doing it right if you're a couple levels above the other team by level 10).

For items, start with Scaled(550) and Banded(550). Then get Unbreakable(1500). Then Vlemish (1750)-- if you're forced back to town to heal and don't have enough money, you can sell Scaled for 440 at this point. From there, Plenor(1500) if you're using Boulder Roll a lot, and then set your eyes on Nimoth, Orb of Defiance, Narmoth and Orb of Veiled Storms (if you manage to get this, the bane of your towers, minions, are no longer a threat because you don't have to worry about landing Slam on them).

Get teleports, potions, and capture locks as you see fit. I'll trust you know how to use them.

You can throw some other items (like Boots or Wand of Speed) in there or get more expensive stuff based on your kills/assists and how many of the upgrades your teammates buy.

If it isn't obvious by my skill and item choices, the general strategy is to play defensively like a full Tower Rook, but bust out all your glorious dps on anyone who tries to take you. Oak is usually the biggest problem, since he can avoid the Hammer via interrupt and shield, and his minions often absorb the tower damage.

Sorry this post is gonna be weak on formatting till I've made sure I put everything important in here.

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The most important thing you should notice is that God Strength isn't that good

Isn't good? I absolutely love it! Not only do I not get to hit anyone with it because I move so slow the damage can also be reduced by armor and I attack slow!

I love the fact I can actually count the amount of time I melee another DG in the game.

Just in case you are wondering, I got up to 15.

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this build is very similar to the one i play with rook. it rocks on maps with narrow lanes. its pretty good to keep the towers alive on cataract.

i have to admit that killing the creeps with heavens wrath is not great for the teammates. last game i was lvl 10 my mates were both at 7. the enemy was 7/7/8. not too bad and that way its possible to hold a lane alone but not nice as well.

i wouldnt use that on prison though. map too wide for only two towers early game.

mana management is the key to this build. so scaled is a must and shoulder is better than slam cause you wont have the mana for slam. banded is a good start, then unbreakable because of the mana. what you take next is a matter of how good the other team is. good: nimoth or hauberk (though i prefer nimoth). bad: vlemish. later on sell scaled and get vlemish and magus rod. with magus you have one slot free for armor and health cause you dont need the crown.

i agree that this is a supporting build. dont be too offensive.

on cataract: with port scrolls as a way out you can try to get the gold towers down. use your towers as a look out for enemys who come from the center (place them there outside enemys tower range...) and run away early enough if you see them coming.

just my thoughts after playing.

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@Derog

Think of it this way: your teammates are even with their opponents, and you're 2 levels above yours. It's definately a winning situation. Having a level 10 skill before everyone else gives you a huge advantage in battle. Using it to level isn't about creep stealing; it's about killing creeps that would otherwise die without giving anyone on your team experience.

I never touch Magus Rod. If you're using teleports and capture locks, you only have room for 1 trinket, and Orb of Defiance is 10x better. It's also significantly more expensive than Plenor, and doesn't give you the huge +1500 to your mana pool.

"i agree that this is a supporting build. dont be too offensive."

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guess i was confused with another build but generally being too offensive is an easy way to die with rook if you teammates arent there.

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does heavens wrath one hit erebus minions? if so i will definitely try it out because i find him and his minions to be a problem for rook.

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awuffleablehedgie

Join Date 04/2009

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Quoting madskill145,

reply 5

does heavens wrath one hit erebus minions? if so i will definitely try it out because i find him and his minions to be a problem for rook.

It will do damage to them (250) but it will not throw them up in the air and insta-kill them, however.

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Quoting Derog,

reply 4

guess i was confused with another build but generally being too offensive is an easy way to die with rook if you teammates arent there.

Sorry, for some reason I thought you meant I offended you. Nvm.

Quoting madskill145,

reply 5

does heavens wrath one hit erebus minions? if so i will definitely try it out because i find him and his minions to be a problem for rook.

No, minions take the 250 damage (which makes them die considerably sooner to your towers/other damage, but does not kill them by itself). You usually want to Slam the minions so that your towers focus him, although Oak with minions is usually more trouble because he can easily interrupt the Slam.

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this build is completely wrong,, tower is for farm creep and slam is for demigods. but you don't get boulder roll at lv 5, 60% of your slam toward them will fail

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Quoting TB_MasteR,

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this build is completely wrong,, tower is for farm creep and slam is for demigods. but you don't get boulder roll at lv 5, 60% of your slam toward them will fail

Have you used the build? if no GTFO obviously it works for him...

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Quoting TB_MasteR,

reply 8

this build is completely wrong,, tower is for farm creep and slam is for demigods. but you don't get boulder roll at lv 5, 60% of your slam toward them will fail

Yes, in an ideal world where your towers are already attacking the DG you slam him, but a tower farm's unwaivering dps is undeniable, so you want to make sure the towers are shooting DGs. If the DG is right in the middle of his minions, or the Slam would kill him, sweet, but if not, then taking out the minions/creeps is your goal (you shouldn't need to slam them though if he's not attacking you). Here's how long it takes for tower farm to deal the same damage as a Slam (to a single taret) at the same level:

Level 1: 500 damage / 100 dps = 5.00 seconds, 6.25 at 20% armor, 8.33 at 40% armor
Level 2: 900 damage / 260 dps = 3.46 seconds, 4.33 at 20% armor, 5.77 at 40% armor
Level 3: 1300 damage / 480 dps = 2.71 seconds, 3.39 at 20% armor, 4.51 at 40% armor
Level 4: 1700 damage / 760 dps = 2.24 seconds, 2.80 at 20% armor, 3.73 at 40% armor

I'd say that's pretty well worth slamming the minions (and it takes out some of their dps and takes time/mana for them to get new ones).

I used to play on my bro's computer (mine gets 2 fps) but he's gone back to college. I'll put replays up whenever I get it installed on another computer, so you and any other doubters can see how it plays.

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