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Reply #26 October 31, 2009 2:22:50 PM
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Deceiver_0, ur at it again eh......

btw, phasic trap lvl 2 is not a bug.....the range gets increased by 1000 and duration by 15 secs........so unless u have money to spare, the 2nd upgrade can be held of for a while...

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Reply #27 October 31, 2009 3:06:29 PM
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ovi, it's a confirmed bug.  Only one level is recognized according to the game files.

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Reply #28 October 31, 2009 4:56:12 PM
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Yeah, the range and duration remain the same before and after the research.

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Reply #29 November 1, 2009 11:25:58 AM
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Here is a little, little, little bug! (the hole in the kol)

And this graphic bug on the kortul!

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Reply #30 November 1, 2009 11:53:24 AM
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Another autocast bug:

The Sikrantra autocasts Scramble Bombers when strikecraft launch is disabled.

Related AI bug:

The AI does not recognize this limitation either and does not retreat defenseless carriers.  For example, if the AI has a few undefended carriers in a "strikecraft launch disabled" grav well, you can send in one scout to kill them all.

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Reply #31 November 1, 2009 1:57:07 PM
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The AI does not recognize this limitation either and does not retreat defenseless carriers. For example, if the AI has a few undefended carriers in a "strikecraft launch disabled" grav well, you can send in one scout to kill them all.

Does that effect all AI difficulties? becuase I know that the easy AIs are absolutley stupid, and normal isnt that much better.

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Reply #32 November 1, 2009 4:21:05 PM
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Thanks, Deceiver:

On a previous post, I requested that the next SOASE/Entrenchment patch include an option to toggle off AI surrender.  Sometimes, he just gives up too darn easy.  Not sure if this fits into what you're looking to put together, but if it does I'd sure appreciate you including it.

HB

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Reply #33 November 1, 2009 10:04:33 PM
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That sounds good, but the reason why the AI surrenders in the first place is because the "mop-up" stage in SP was very boring.

Also, Space Egg colonise needs to be brought into line with the other races. Its unfair giving the Vasari overpriced ships AND a major eco disadvantage. Vasari scouts, assailants and sentinels need to get looked at.

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Reply #34 November 2, 2009 9:46:05 AM
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Does that effect all AI difficulties? becuase I know that the easy AIs are absolutley stupid, and normal isnt that much better.

Even unfair doesn't recognize magnetic storms (or plasma?) as a place they shouldn't send carriers. The tactic of making a starbase there to protect a free extractor will inevitably end with a giant slaughter. Usually over and over again.

And "scramble bombers" is an ability, so maybe that's why it still happens.

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Reply #35 November 3, 2009 5:51:54 PM
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ok quick bug i noticed. i dont know if it was mentioned before or if it even a bug or some special feature. However at certain times in different games i noticed my ships Vasari and the AI ships Tec make inter grav well phase jumps from the middle to the edge of the grav well. i think it first occured when i cancelled the jump order of two ships trying to jump to my fleet on another planet.

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Reply #36 November 3, 2009 9:17:56 PM
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I think it's a bug. It happens to me too, but I haven't been cancelling any orders. It's really annoying when you're in a well that has a starbase in it (since the game registers the ship as leaving the well, and doest the SB damage thingy to it).

 

Thanks for starting up another post.

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Reply #37 November 4, 2009 12:26:07 PM
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something that bothers me is that whenever a scout leaves a grav well that had a starbase in it, and it arrives at the next planet, I hear a message saying that a ship is being attacked. Then I go and check on it, and it's just a scout that had phase destabilization. No attack. Maybe that's not a bug, but I think it would be nice to have that fixed.

Thanks Deceiver!

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Reply #38 November 4, 2009 12:36:38 PM
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What about the random map generator that attaches one GW to another with a phase lane the goes stright up from the middle. Nothing can make that jump so whatever is trying just keeps ping ponging back and forth in the GW.

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Reply #39 November 4, 2009 12:51:41 PM
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Unnerf ninja sentiel nerf. Vasa r already screwed enough.

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Reply #40 November 4, 2009 2:55:19 PM
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There's also the meson bolt typo on the Entrenchment upgrade tree...

It has been suggested that the autocast on Reintegration might be reworked to operate at higher ship health levels, as it's not useful to have it begin at very low levels. Perhaps 50-60% health?  If the ship isn't part of a group, its very much easier to have auto off.

If there is an Entrenchment Z-axis problem with starbases I trust that this will be fixed, and not left to an informal honour system, though it is possibly not a hotfix issue.

However, of all the bugs, the Illuminator bug was the one created by the v1.18 balance patch itself, and the dps of a main unit like LRF is a major issue.  Its the only bug that demands a hotfix.  The bug has already been identified, it's easy to correct and has a large impact on gameplay.  Impulse for patches was advertised as being especially for this sort of issue.  Where is the Illuminator hotfix?

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Reply #41 November 4, 2009 7:09:08 PM
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I have nagging feeling beta for deplomacy will be out first which may fix the problem, then a hot fix for previous versions.

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Reply #42 November 4, 2009 7:10:02 PM
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I have nagging feeling beta for deplomacy will be out first which may fix the problem, then a hot fix for previous versions.

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Reply #43 November 5, 2009 1:20:53 PM
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I have nagging feeling beta for deplomacy will be out first which may fix the problem, then a hot fix for previous versions.

I have the same feeling.

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Reply #44 November 5, 2009 1:47:52 PM
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Quoting Howdidudothat,
reply 24
Has no one mentioned pathing? 

It seems the pathing of ships got worse after v1.01 entrenchment.  If you give a group of ships an order, they all rearrange to jump out in some "musical" chairs sort of way.  It's really stupid, annoying, and more micro intensive than it should be to get multiple ships to jump out as quickly as possible.

Pathing gets me down sometimes.  I hate it when I give a move order to a group of ships, and I see the line for the path they intend to take, and then I check back later and some of them took another path instead.  This is especially bad when that "other" path is through the pirate base.  I have had it happen where most of the fleet follows the intended course, but for some reason ...say....the light frigates ...decide it would be better to take a shortcut through the pirate base.

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Reply #45 November 5, 2009 2:11:09 PM
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Skirmishers:

  • yay for dps increase
  • nay for command decrease
  • nay for cost decrease
  • yay for autocast AI

 

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Reply #46 November 5, 2009 2:17:42 PM
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Skirmishers:

  • yay for dps increase
  • nay for command decrease
  • yay for cost decrease (very slight)
  • yay for autocast AI

Vas Scouts (though it wasn't asked yet)

  • yay for dps increase
  • yay for command decrease
  • nay for cost decrease
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Reply #47 November 5, 2009 2:35:39 PM
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Though Ironclad may be a small team, it has to be disappointing for JJ to make the effort to identify a concealed and vital bug for them and then for them not to make a necessary one-word change.  It goes against all the reasons that were advanced for Impulse being used as the method of patch delivery.  Also, it means that all the balance tests of this version will have to be treated as bugged.  I was encouraged by the apparent existence of an illuminator balance patch to start to become involved in a community mappack- which might become equally important to balance.  However, to have a serious bug in v1.18 that further buffs illuminators has dampened my enthusiasm.  

I don't believe that Cobalts and Disciples are delivering- I don't want an LRF centred game and for me all light frigates are still too expensive in terms of supply and possibly cost to perform their functions later in the game.  So for the Skirmisher all my votes are supportive of change.  I'd like the supply on the Cobalt and Disciple lowered a point as well.  I'd also like turret costs to be very heavily decreased to allow the possibility to prevent very early rushes, when these are spotted.

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Reply #48 November 5, 2009 2:52:39 PM
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I'd also like turret costs to be very heavily decreased to allow the possibility to prevent very early rushes, when these are spotted.

Turrets are too much of a gamble, I don't think that reducing their cost would be terribly effective in making them more useful in MP. They are too easily overwhelmed or outranged. The bonuses they get in the entrenchment tech tree are ok, but often disregarded as people just don't bother with them. Personally I might consider using them more if they did a small area of splash damage to help handle the masses of weaker units often found in a rush, because lets face it, they're meant to protect structures, but they do a rather poor job of it.

P.S.

So Yay for all skirmisher topics?

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Reply #49 November 5, 2009 3:08:03 PM
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Skirmishers:

* yay for dps increase
* nay for command decrease
* nay for cost decrease

Vas Scouts (though it wasn't asked yet)

* nay for dps increase
* yay for command decrease
* nay for cost decreas

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Reply #50 November 5, 2009 3:13:22 PM
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Skirmishers:

+ Yay on dps increase

- Nay on command decrease

- Nay for cost decrease

+ Yay for Reintegration autocast AI improvement

 

I'll come back to scouts when/if they're posted.

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