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USE SIGIL OF VITALITY!!!

November 30, 2009 6:36:34 PM from Demigod ForumsDemigod Forums

You have to use it because its OVERPOWERED, right??

give 50% instant extra health for 20seconds, its OP right??

You are considered a noob if you don't have one at least becuase its must item for pros. Because its OP right??

 

NERF IT.

NERF IT.

NERF IT.

NERF IT.

 

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Reply #1 November 30, 2009 6:52:48 PM
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Already been suggested. Try modding section.

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Reply #2 November 30, 2009 7:52:47 PM
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No, show your elite skill by not using it... well, exception given to rook.

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Reply #3 November 30, 2009 7:57:05 PM
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My TB doesn't use it

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Reply #4 December 1, 2009 9:42:57 AM
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im not the very worst player...and definitly not the very best....but i can see that constant money spending on items like sigil, potions, cap locks and teleports can be a big disadvantage too....

 

why ? Just because if i realize an enemy beeing equipped with all this shit...i just try to make him trigger it as often as possible...lets say..pretend to fight...wait for his sigil...then run....and so on.....

 

good luck in competing with my Groffling which i got in time by saving up very hard and only buy the most essential...i try to use my skills and my char to survive

 

all i wanna say....a sigil in the right moment is a good thing...but to have one with u all the time is bs in my eyes....

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Reply #5 December 1, 2009 10:24:53 AM
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Early game, I agree, no one should be buying sigils. However, mid-to-late game, when currency upgrades have been purchased and money isn't usually a big deal you should have a sigil with you PROVIDING you have room for it. Depending on how the game is progressing, I usually end up choosing between carrying sigils, a wand of speed (other two slots always have TPs and locks), or if I'm really rich that game an Orb of Veiled Storms.

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Reply #6 December 1, 2009 10:47:40 AM
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I almost never buy it. Sure extra health but only for 20 sec. If you need this to survive you should have died anyway: losing money to stay alive isn't a good strategy.

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Reply #7 December 1, 2009 11:54:34 AM
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What? How does that make sense, if you don't have sigil and someone does, you will surely lose the fight.

Simply make the fight look good, and at the end of it engage sigil, if your opponent can't do the same, that is alot of new HPs to have to fight through.

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Reply #8 December 1, 2009 1:58:54 PM
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Maybe they should make it a favor item.

65 second cool down (so you get 20 seconds of sigil, and then the standard 45 second cool down)

Might be Imba with 20 seconds, but 10 is to low. So maybe test 20, but be willing to make it last 15 seconds if 20 prooves to powrful.

Might be a new tower rook favorite

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Reply #9 December 1, 2009 2:26:01 PM
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For DG's with no heal or shield, the sigil is a can be the saving difference, whether in a fight or fleeing.    If there is space for it, not dying is worth more than 500 gold.  I don't want to use a sigil every trip out from the crystal tho.  That money could be spent on permanent items.

In a 1v1 game, I love the sigil early.  Those first few fights determine the game.  Build up an early equipment advantage and the opponent can't start to turn a flag without getting ninja-ported.

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Reply #10 December 1, 2009 6:57:13 PM
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It's hard to say. I expect everyone to be packing a sigil now, and I've lost some encouters because of it. However, if I'm able to get away, they just lost 500 gold.

I wouldn't mind seeing it come into play a bit later - perhaps make it 750 gold?

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Reply #11 December 1, 2009 7:02:25 PM
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Maybe they should make it a favor item.

65 second cool down (so you get 20 seconds of sigil, and then the standard 45 second cool down)

Might be Imba with 20 seconds, but 10 is to low. So maybe test 20, but be willing to make it last 15 seconds if 20 prooves to powrful.

Might be a new tower rook favorite

That would be so OP. Make erebus even more unstopable. Or even better, make my Oak unkillable. Alternate shiled III and this favor item and I will be always above 6k health . get low on health, shield for 6 sec, and get healed by by bishop and priests (maybe sedna in the way). 20 sec later pop sigil and Im 8-9k health. 20 sec later pop shield. do it over and over.

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Reply #12 December 1, 2009 7:12:38 PM
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Cowbut....u are crying about sigil because u dont use it or/and u got pwned by sigil players all the time ?? If u answer YES at one of the question...then its normal that u cry Otherwise ppl dont complaint about it. Sigil is to survive during a nice battle to finish ur opponent or to survive after u killed one ennemi. Ppl dont use it all the time.

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Reply #13 December 1, 2009 7:16:23 PM
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Quoting Microstar,
reply 4
im not the very worst player...and definitly not the very best....but i can see that constant money spending on items like sigil, potions, cap locks and teleports can be a big disadvantage too....

 

why ? Just because if i realize an enemy beeing equipped with all this shit...i just try to make him trigger it as often as possible...lets say..pretend to fight...wait for his sigil...then run....and so on.....

 

good luck in competing with my Groffling which i got in time by saving up very hard and only buy the most essential...i try to use my skills and my char to survive

 

all i wanna say....a sigil in the right moment is a good thing...but to have one with u all the time is bs in my eyes....

who knows when that right moment will be?  Always have one with you so it isn't "man if I woulda had a sigil I could have got the kill"

however, I completely agree on constant spending on items.  I see people waste items constantly.. like caplocking a flag that nobody was going to touch (i.e. you just killed 2 people and you're sitting on the flag... nobody is going to take it from you.. if the 3rd person DOES come.. caplock it then).  Or they will port from mid to base for no reason.. or port in to try to kill someone only to have that person get out of reach before they get there.  I do like making people waste teleports by pretending to push something.

Just because some people waste these items does not mean that the items suck tho.  A well used pot, sigil, gadget, or tele can get you a kill, which is always better than no kill.

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Reply #14 December 1, 2009 7:20:32 PM
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Depending on demi and the build you are playing, most of the time when you reach above 4k Health, it is necesarry to carry sigils. Speed demis don't need it, low hp builds don't need it. Erebus, if he can spend his mana in battle don't need it. But most of the time it is good to have it just in case and also it creates lot of chances to bait. Another thing i love is to see who is gonna pop the sigil in 1w1 ub battle for example. Those decisions affect the result. I love the way sigil works, yes it is overpowered compared to many other consumables but what the hell, all DG's can use it and it adds game more spice to battles with timing.

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Reply #15 December 1, 2009 9:13:08 PM
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Quoting primz,
reply 12
Cowbut....u are crying about sigil because u dont use it or/and u got pwned by sigil players all the time ?? If u answer YES at one of the question...then its normal that u cry Otherwise ppl dont complaint about it. Sigil is to survive during a nice battle to finish ur opponent or to survive after u killed one ennemi. Ppl dont use it all the time.

umm I am not TB_Master......

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Reply #16 December 2, 2009 12:17:01 PM
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I also want Sigil changed I found this item very useful since beta 3 and if you search old beta posts I mention it.  It needs to be changed. Because Health stacking and sigil is all their is now.

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Reply #17 December 2, 2009 4:00:29 PM
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Personally I think taking sigil out will lower the skill level of this game. Many people use them improperly and they do cost 500 gold a piece. Its a skilled item imo just like gadget.

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Reply #18 December 2, 2009 5:25:50 PM
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That is why it should be NERFED

ITS TOOOOOOO NECESSARY!!!

LATE GAME 3 CONSUMABLE ITEMS!!!

-TP SCROLL

-CAPTURE LOCK

-SIGIL OF VITALITY

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Reply #19 December 2, 2009 5:44:04 PM
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Its not necessary, it really depends on your character. For example getting sigils as oak doesn't make much sence when a shield + a 3k pot will give you back your health indefinetly.

As a rook player I tend to get ord of defiance over sigil.

as TB or Regulus I opt for wand of speed because even if you do pop a sigil you will probably still die as them.

 

The character I do use them on every game though is UB.

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Reply #20 December 2, 2009 8:34:35 PM
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Quoting lifekatana,
reply 6
I almost never buy it. Sure extra health but only for 20 sec. If you need this to survive you should have died anyway: losing money to stay alive isn't a good strategy.

Erm, this is wrong. If you have never used them, you don't know what you're missing. There is a reason that most of the top tier players use them.

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Reply #21 December 2, 2009 8:38:10 PM
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Quoting TB_MasteR,
reply 18
That is why it should be NERFED

ITS TOOOOOOO NECESSARY!!!

LATE GAME 3 CONSUMABLE ITEMS!!!

-TP SCROLL

-CAPTURE LOCK

-SIGIL OF VITALITY

No, they don't need nerfed. They add an additional level of tactics to the game. It would be boring playing without these items.

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Reply #22 December 3, 2009 10:19:07 PM
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Quoting Epiphenomenon,
reply 21



Quoting TB_MasteR,
reply 18
That is why it should be NERFED

ITS TOOOOOOO NECESSARY!!!

LATE GAME 3 CONSUMABLE ITEMS!!!

-TP SCROLL

-CAPTURE LOCK

-SIGIL OF VITALITY


No, they don't need nerfed. They add an additional level of tactics to the game. It would be boring playing without these items.

Come on.. don't get it??

It should be nerfed becuase lot of people don't use it and they die. it is the item that gives most difference between pros and noobs.

noobs will be so pissed if they get instant 3000 health. and 20seconds are too long. it should be nerfed to 10~15 seconds. And its so cheep

Its not even a tactic lol. Once you start to use it... you keep using it. Its just 1 click, and instant 2000~3000 health ok>? got it?

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Reply #23 December 3, 2009 11:03:38 PM
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But hitting F? when you're at low health is so pro...

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Reply #24 December 4, 2009 9:56:33 PM
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Quoting Cowbuttzex,
reply 15



Quoting primz,
reply 12
Cowbut....u are crying about sigil because u dont use it or/and u got pwned by sigil players all the time ?? If u answer YES at one of the question...then its normal that u cry Otherwise ppl dont complaint about it. Sigil is to survive during a nice battle to finish ur opponent or to survive after u killed one ennemi. Ppl dont use it all the time.



umm I am not TB_Master......

yeah sorry i meant TB_master ^^

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Reply #25 December 5, 2009 5:38:07 AM
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I believe it could use a nerf, at least time-wise.  20 seconds is way too long in this game.

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