about deadeye grimonk, ive taken stun out alrdy and changed it to slow down enemies health regen by 50% and attack speed by 30% for 5 secs at a proc rate of 15. Now during late game its expected ull have fast attack speed, implying that you should be able to pull off this powerful debuff quite regularly.

lol trig. Funny you should say that coz someone told me he thought he was OP now

but I think these need to be tested over a longer period of time.

If you have anything other than renewal you won't do enough DPS to do any good - unless you're a trap master, which no one is. You must use renewal to contribute to lvl 11, then you pretty much need to switch over to an AA build.

BTW, I tried Vengeance in a game. It really wasn't worth it. It either needs to do way more damage, or should be replaced with something useful.

The damage done from full AF is faster and better and stronger than vengeance. I stopped using vengeance because it was just quicker to clear creeps with AF and mines - at lvl 15 it's giants time anyway. The other problem with vengeance is that it's useless in direct combat because of it's low DPS and reg's reliance of lifesteal items and autoattack to stay alive vs other demigods. If you're casting vengeance during that time you'll take damage for 2-3 seconds and not regen.

Mana is just not an issue that late in the game anyway. Perhaps if vengeance was available at lvl 10 I would be able to find a real use for it.

notes taken.

i think ill adjust the health regen debuff to 20%. and i might change motb slightly unless u guys think otherwise?

Not sure if it's possible to change the actual structure of the skill placement but if it is...

Link Snipe and Maim a la Erebus' ICA/Coven or TB's Deep Freeze/Fireball and make the final selection a 2 second stun.  Gives use to snipe late game even when the damage can't compete with health stacking.  Makes snipe a hell of a lot scarier when coordinated appropriately.  Gives Regulus a possible out if he's over extended.

If not, consider giving Snipe's final slot an AoE (think like Snipe + 3 mines at your current mine rank damage, min 300).  This gives significant punch and scales w/ your mine skill.  Also decent for strategic clearing of creep waves.

And how about changing MotB to doing 10/15/20% max health per rank, rather than static 400/600/800.  This way, Regulus has one skill that scales w/ health stacking.  The 20 second cooldown keeps it from being OP, imo.  If you think that's too powerful, keep the same %s but make it a DoT (say, 10 seconds).

Since you took the time to explain it, ill put the time to explian why this test does not work. I am assuming that a semi compeditive game is minimium required test.

Though i have not played vs the AI mod but from the change logs it appears there have been been mimimal sucess in inproving its laning ability, that is it has less skill than the average player with 4 games has at holding a lane.

Just no, this is not at all equlivlent high all would definately benifit the ranged demigods.

All real ingame builds for the metagame (submitted by pros) assume that reg does not exsist (if there is a reg on the other team the idea would be to make a few changes drag the game out and win the 2vs2s to 3vs3s late game, and just enevitibly win). Playing against reg requires some degree of common sence wich unless programmed in computers do not have. Reg appears to be good when your enermy assumess reg is a joke, thinks that they will not run into double mines placed where reg has just been and none of the other player make any effort to ajust there builds and playstyles because there is a reg on the other team. Reg has some rather large problems when it comes to important roles in acually winning a game (can't 1vs1, 2v2, hold a lane protect a portal, block a flag lock or provent a tele out).

You do realise that regen from monks/priest with a health stack (not effected by this debuff) is many mutiples of that that can be gained from items and abilites. Most proper games every one on your team should have aleast one monk following them. This debuff does not effect monk regen and therefor is more like a 3 to 7 (guessing) percent health regen debuff and therfore can just be ignored. If this acutally effected monk regen then regs ability to effect things from a distance might actuall be good and make him unique and playerble. Apart from getting a second snipe (if they dont have a tele) the sight is pretty average and is a fair inprovement for a point.

AI is just not even close to good enough to test reg against, once reg can stand up to the minions of minion heavy builds then good players might publish artiacals for statergys against reg and then he can get some fair ballance. Once you realise how snipe and mines work and that they are being used by someone with resonable inteligence (could actually be smarter than you) you stop being supised that you got sniped or ran over double mines (they also have a 1 second cast time and can be interupted) and realise than full moral builds achive pretty much the same thing that reg can and do it much better, currently minions do not work vs ooze and Mass Charm but reg is even worse. These changes do help but still dont actually make him viable, though he closer under the mod to being viable and unique.

wow what a load of text to read lol.

ill have to get bak to this...

lol

I would suggest that you host games with ur two mods and let people know in advance on the forum when u intend to host such games. also join people on vent channel and let them know about it. It will take time before people appreciate these changes.

I currently have connections issues with firewall at my university that's why I wasn't able to play online for the past month and a half (about 3 games lol). I would have happily hosted games with ur mods.