Synn, are you just that guy who always plays the UP characters in every game

We should start a club

Rakion reminds me so much of Demigod. Beautiful game, great gameplay, everyone's kind of a tard unless you specifically find good people to play with, the developers are kind of herp de derp, the maps are similar, similar RPG elements. Oh and everything is broken but they're still fun. I'd love to play a team deatmatch with you sometime Synn. I'm playing as a bs named Aiur if you ever care to look me up

Fire, ice or hybrid are all really nice. Depend of ur teammate, depend of ur opposite team. Fire tb is a pain for speed and instant damage, ice is a pain for the cooldown, slow speed and 2x interrupt and hybrid have 50% of each side benefice.

That's my point. Hybrid isnt 50%.

The build I use still gives Deep Freeze, Frost Nova, RoI and Fireball. You get PLENTY of burst (see my other post) and you get every control spell that ice has.

The only thing you miss out on is lvl II of Frost Nova before 16 and Auras. Auras are nice but active abilities will mean a lot more. 

Ice misses out on Fireball which is the bread n' butter spell for TB. Thats your whittle spell.

Fire misses out on an interrupt (wtf, why would you not get at least 1 point in it?), the only stun that effects buildings, and a ranged version of Fire Nova that (at most points) costs less mana.

(My)Hybrid misses out on CoF, Fire Nova (Crappy point blank RoI), and Auras.
The auras are the only ones I hate that I miss out on, but again, activatable abilities are more fun the passive %s. The dmg from the fire aura isn't very helpful and the mana regen on Ice doesnt help much due to BotS. The slow/speed is very nice though.

  I play pure fire.  Its an easy, versatile, fast and effective build to play. 

 In the hands of a good player who is micro managing interupts and what, not Ice or Hybrid is probably better.

  i dont know how to respond when you say things like that.  I cant think of a simpler demigod to play than a pure fire TB.   You literally only have 2 skills to choose from which are nothing a like so there is no confusion when to use which skill.  

fireball: instant damage, single target, ranged

circle of fire: damage over time, area of effect, not ranged.  

to me thats one of the easiar builds to play.     For a pure fire build I dont understand why you need BoTS, fire tb shouldnt have mana problems.. at least not ones where BoTS would prove benefitial.    Any way I cut it, it just doesnt make sense.  

I dont think I have any replays with fire TB but ill try and get one to show you the simplicity of it. 

I dont disagree that hybrid is probably the TB that should be played if you are a real competitive pro.   For me its just too much form switching, timing interupts and micro managing.  plus I like a strong early game.

 I did not have any prior replays saved of good games so I took these 2 of rather unremarkeable games.   But these games show how a simple fire TB build is run.  Nothing remarkeable.      I think I have another replay of me going against a pure ice TB build and losing a rather poorly played game, in another replay that ill try and find.

http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&show=details&id=118885

http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&show=details&id=118886

this put a smile on my face, i thought my biggest issue with tb was that i can do a good job of driving off other demigods once they have been hit by all my damage/stuns/deep freeze but find it hard to get the kill... i'm not a top level player by any means but its nice to know that in some respects what I'm doing isnt wrong

Ice is more fun for those games where your team works perfectly and fire is more fun if you can actually get to level 15 and start spamming everything while standing in your circle.  I think the hybrid build of fireball+RoI+other ice skill+BotS is best in most real situations though.  Gets you full direct damage, all the nifty ice abilities, nothing generally wasteful like fire nova or that can be avoided like CoF.  Though TB's best used in an adaptable manner; I've had a few games won where both sides have giants because I started picking up more AoE instead of extra levels of Deep Freeze or the like and focused on helping our creep waves beat theirs.

*cough*tbtbtbtbtbtbtbtbtb*cough*

lmao

I tend to do a more ice-focused, espiecially against minion builds or a Rook. When I'm feeling really lazyfawkes I'll just do a pure Ice because pushing 4 is too much work. Plus, with pure-ice you can go Swift Anklet and then just get Vlemish. Using Relieve the Immolation and your passive 40+ mps, it's more than enough for your abilities with absurdly long cooldowns. 

Importantly... really 1v1 you should never get a kill. With any demigod :-/ if you do, it's because the enemy overextended or made a mistake somehow, not because of your awesome build or awesome demigod skills. 2v2 or 2v1 is a totally different story. But 1v1... not so much.  If you're playing ANY build with the sole purpose of getting kills 1v1 you're probably playing a lower-level game and you should re-evaluate your build and playstyle. UB is perhaps the only exception to this rule but that's cause he is OP.  

Also, you can say that Teseer's build is the "one true" hybrid, and you might be sorta right. It tends to perform on-par or slightly better than any other given TB build for a large variety of circumstances. That said, there are certain circumstances where a pure-ice or pure-fire or an alternate form of hybrid does better. Thunder and I actually run very, very specialized builds for both Sedna and TB that maximizes synergy. When we aren't paired with each other, we use different builds since they are weaker alone than other comparative builds.

I can see a Pure Ice having a few situations where it is better with getting high end Deep Freezes earlier and the lvl 2 Frost Nova at 10 instead of 16 (man I wish I could fit it earlier). It SCREWS cooldowns if you actually work on that being your goal.

Fire...I just can't see not having an interrupt and stun being helpful for anymore then the Fire Aura. Which...is cool. But not worth dropping two vital abilities.

Fire Nova I discount as its a rangeless RoI.

CoF is only really good for Area Denial.

I just don't see Fire TB being all that useful.