Looks interesting! Can't have too many 4x fantasy tbs games.

Dev has previously done mostly WW2 strategy games, so this is a bit of a leap from them. Haven't tried their games, even though I play lot of strategy.

D20 system sounds fine to me, any particular reason why it would be problematic?

"Looks interesting! Can't have too many 4x fantasy tbs games"

Lineup seems pretty impressive already. AoW3, Elemental expansion, Eador, Sovereignty: Crown of Kings... Have I missed some

In tabletop gaming, that's actually a good thing.

Contrary to almost every other game, d20 calculates the parry/dodge chance into armor class. This means seemingly more misses, but combat in other systems goes "I've hit" - "Parried" - "I've hit" - "Parried" - "I've missed" - "Parried, oops, wasn't necessary" - "I've hit" - "Parried" - "I've hit"- "OK, not parried this time".

Note that in terms of doing damage that is still 4 misses and only then 1 hit, and in d20 that would simply be "miss" - "miss" - "miss" - "miss" - "hit".

Two persons rolling physical dice just takes longer than only one doing so, and additionally in my experience systems with parry have even less real hits than d20 on average - most likely driven by the fact that parry must work almost all the time to feel like it's working.

TL;DR

d20 on average has rather more than less attacks that do damage than attack/parry systems.

Xia, you played Palladium ???

Damn this is the first time, I've ever found somebody playing it beside me. I was absolutely in love with that game.

and then you throw a Shadowrun which is my second love (actualy love reborn as dig into play by post rpg as I lost contact with my rpg team years ago)

I'm a very high level geek.

Initially I was kinda meh about yet another 4x Fantasy game, took a look at their website and immediately noticed that all their games are done with a Hex grid.  Okay, now it has my attention.

Why does their website have a spaceship backgrounds but no space games?

Already a MoO3... whether anyone wants to admit or not

also the game will be squares not hex.

I think that's a mistake myself, but they seem to want to make it as MoM like as possible.  Not really a big deal honestly, but I'm enjoying the hex games more these days.

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No, I CAN'T make it visible 

Worlds of Magic just hit Kickstarter

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/304725524/worlds-of-magic-a-new-classic-4x-fantasy-game

If you like 4X games, be sure to check the link and if you like what you see, please share it with others and back us.

As I've always said, I don't regret pre-ordering Elemental since I wanted 4x fantasy games to shine again. And right now, things are moving somewhat, it seems.

That said, no, not even LH will be the MoM successor we preordered 3 years ago. It never even got a chance, since, by design, it is radically different. Now these new guys don't appear to have enormous resources but I'm willing to bet they've understood a lot of the things that went wrong with Elemental (no diverse races, no interesting tactical battles, lack of flying units, sieges, naval units, lack of crafting, bland magic system and so on). Now I've come to accept FE for what it is, and I will play the occasional game, I suppose, when it's in its final state.

But no, it's no MoM, not even after 3 years, because its basics themselves make it impossible to be.

I don't know what these guys will do but the more the merrier: eventually someone will get it right  

I think these guys have their hearts in the right place.

Cautiously hopeful. 

I'll wait for a gameplay video, or a demo. These are the best ways I've found to judge the merits of a new game.

That said, best of luck with it.