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Reply #76 August 16, 2015 12:55:01 PM
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Quoting RKade8583,
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Antilurker, no need to be argumentative. Let it go. You've said your piece... multiple times.

So have you, yet you're still here.

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Reply #77 August 16, 2015 1:16:26 PM
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Ah, but I've finished saying my piece.

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Reply #78 August 16, 2015 1:26:33 PM
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And never left. Maybe you should heed your own advice and let it go.

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Reply #79 August 16, 2015 2:11:19 PM
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DLCs are here to stay, as has been said before. Either like it or not. For me, it is generally a good thing, as it may keep development alive, such as for FE:LH, for example.

I have mixed feelings about the Megaevent DLC as well, but I get it anyway, as an EliteFounder.

However, the fact, that there are traces of the events in the base game files is by no means proof for stripping them out again. There seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding of how software development works. What is the effective difference of generating, let's say, ten events for the base game and ten later for a DLC, or twenty at once and then take out ten for the DLC? The decision that there would be a DLC was made long before that.

 

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Reply #80 August 16, 2015 2:30:08 PM
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As I have said multiple times in the thread, I am not against DLC. The map packs and ship packs are fine, but when they strip content out like this, that is not fine.

And yes, it is proof they stripped content out. The majority of the DLC files are just text files, it makes no sense to leave them unless Stardock screwed up covering up their tracks, which they did. And we know that DLC was not in their original plans, Stardock has been very clear on what would be DLC and what would be patched in, Mega Events were always patch content.

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Reply #81 August 16, 2015 2:52:43 PM
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What if I think the map packs and editor should have been included for free? I don't but I'm sure someone would... probably on the STEAM forums.

Also, have you talked to any of the higher-ups about your issues? Brad's always been cool to me on twitter. Maybe you and he could debate this?

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Reply #82 August 16, 2015 2:59:09 PM
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They would never admit it. It would be bad PR.

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Reply #83 August 16, 2015 3:05:18 PM
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Way to give it your almost. That's the can-do spirit that makes change.

If this is really that important to you, do something about it like I did. If it's not, go away.

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Reply #84 August 16, 2015 3:08:19 PM
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So how about that Tom Brady. Great guy IMHO.

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Reply #85 August 16, 2015 3:11:01 PM
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I snerked. Well done, sir.

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Reply #86 August 16, 2015 3:47:26 PM
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I've already told many people about this off-site, probably costing Stardock dozens of sales. That's far more productive than shooting questions on twitter that will never be answered.

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Reply #87 August 16, 2015 3:51:15 PM
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He's answered my questions... It couldn't hurt, right? Also, Derek Paxton was a huge help in the beta with a resolution bug I had.

Part of the reason I like Stardock is because they actually DO answer questions.

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Reply #88 August 16, 2015 6:54:49 PM
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If I asked, Stardock only has three options: tell the truth and get a ton of negative press, lie, or ignore the question entirely. There's no point.

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Reply #89 August 16, 2015 7:03:11 PM
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"Back... and to the left.  Back... and to the left."

 

 

 

 

Oh, don't mind me.  That just popped into my head.  No idea why.

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Reply #90 August 16, 2015 8:19:23 PM
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This is hardly a conspiracy. This type of practice is unfortunately way too common these days.

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Reply #91 August 16, 2015 8:33:49 PM
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Quoting Antilurker77,
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This is hardly a conspiracy. This type of practice is unfortunately way too common these days.

I was referring to the utter certainty you have.  You aren't even entertaining a possibility in reply #89 where Stardock could give you a reasonable explanation.  So I felt the quote fit.  

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Reply #92 August 16, 2015 8:49:58 PM
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Of course they can't. There's no technical reason for it. It's malicious and they know it.

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Reply #93 August 16, 2015 8:52:24 PM
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Quoting BuckGodot,
reply 91


Quoting Antilurker77,
reply 90

This is hardly a conspiracy. This type of practice is unfortunately way too common these days.



I was referring to the utter certainty you have.  You aren't even entertaining a possibility in reply #89 where Stardock could give you a reasonable explanation.  So I felt the quote fit.  

Time to one-up you, buddy.

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Reply #94 August 16, 2015 10:49:47 PM
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Time to one-up you, buddy.

 

*salutes* 

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Reply #95 August 16, 2015 11:28:58 PM
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See and here I was trying to be constructive and helpful. You have made my night, sir.

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Reply #96 August 17, 2015 12:40:57 AM
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Back out of the game files and to the left of the release folder (right into the DLC folder!).

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Reply #97 August 17, 2015 12:54:24 AM
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Take a step back and look at how ridiculous you're being. Even if they did all this and even if it was for "malicious" intent, most companies do that now what with on-disk DLC and whatnot. If you wanted to stop that trend, you missed the boat by about 10 years or so.

Stop. Just stop.

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Reply #98 August 17, 2015 1:29:59 AM
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You give up far too easily.

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Reply #99 August 17, 2015 1:37:39 AM
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Quoting RKade8583,
reply 98

Take a step back and look at how ridiculous you're being. Even if they did all this and even if it was for "malicious" intent, most companies do that now what with on-disk DLC and whatnot. If you wanted to stop that trend, you missed the boat by about 10 years or so.

Stop. Just stop.
The funny thing is, I am not even disagreeing that the stuff was very probably moved from the Game folder to the brand-new-with-this-patch DLC folder when they were doing internal developing with their test builds.  Where I DO disagree (though I've long since given up trying to convince him of this) is that none of this shows when Stardock decided to make some mega events paid and none of this shows why Stardock did it and why they chose the ones they did.

One can read all sorts of malicious intent if one wants to.  But I personally think it'd be about as accurate as reading chicken entrails.  

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Reply #100 August 17, 2015 1:47:12 AM
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You can disbelieve all you want, that doesn't change the fact that this has been done by other companies who have been proven to follow unethical DLC practices.

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