Expand or die?

My long time friends, the Arceans, slowly turned on me as they picked off other civilizations one by one. I was not in a good starting position so I couldn`t start to build up myself (although in retrospect maybe I could). I just sat out the game building a trade empire and watching how things progressed.

In the end the Arceans defeated all other major races, minor races, and monsters.. except for me. The fact that we had been 'close' since early in the game started to mean very little as they extorted me and referred to me as 'surrender monkey'. I also think this is a bit odd by the fact that I controlled a whopping 30% of their economy through trade and was their sole trading partner.

So.. whats the deal? Expand or die?

Very early in the game I demanded a tech from them and this caused their people to 'resent' me, but our national relations were good. Could this be the motive for the decaying relationship? How do you restore popular sentiment in another empire?

Finally, how do you make alliances? I was trying to ally with them earlier but could never find the option. If I were an actual ally would I recieve the same treatment?
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Reply #1 Top
You have to have the Alliance technology to ally with them. When you've got that, butter them up real good, and you'll see it in the window as an option.
Reply #2 Top
Maybe you had good v evil issue. If you were good they were evil then its all over for you (or vice versa). The fact that they were your friends for a very long time doeasnt mean much. Relations can cool off just as easily.

PS: I remember Brad saying that they took the strategies of the best players and implemented them into AI engine. It might be the case that Arceans wated to be close with you so you didnt mess up their plans to dominate the galaxy by declaring war on them while they were fighting other races. I know I do that all the time when I play CIV3. :)
Reply #3 Top
Actually I think it is just the Arceans. I had the same problem in a new game. The Torians are fine, but the Arceans? Noooo.. next time I see them in a game I`ll just obliterate them before they even have a chance to annoy me.