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XP's Success Isn't Vista's Failure

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XP's Success Isn't Vista's Failure

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Microsoft's decision to let OEMs sell Windows XP for six additional months is the right move. But continued XP demand isn't a knock against Windows Vista.

To that statement I say, Yeah, right!

Vista has gotten a bad rap, and Microsoft is partly to blame. In late 2003, Microsoft touted all the great—and, yes, truly innovative—features coming in Windows XP's successor. Later, Microsoft dumped most of the best stuff, failing to deliver on many Vista promises.

If Microsoft is only partly to blame, who gets the rest of the credit, who else is responsible?


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Reply #51 from WinCustomize Forums Top
The anti MS sentiment is, in my opinion, good for the industry. If people consider options besides Microsoft, then ultimately it will make their developers work harder. And that benefits everyone.


You're probably right, but it's all a bit late for my purchase of Vista just when I was getting to like it, too and now it's obsolete...BOO, HOO, HOO SOB, SOB.

Yeah, I am disappointed Vista hasn't fared better, but the getting out/needing some air was more to do with my daily constitutional than any woes concerning PC's or OSes.

Thing is, I'm happy with what I've got, and hopefully the industry will have resolved the various issues by the time I need to replace my current OSes....Vista AND XP.

As I said above, I believe this debate is good.


That it is...it's debates like these that come to the attention of MS, Apple and Linux, etc, and while I may be happy with what I have right now, there are no defining boundaries in the computing world that say there's no room for improvement.

Reply #52 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Onec again, with a gentle nudge, I use Microsoft software and probably will untill something shows that it's up to the challenge. Some will say Apple is it, others will say Linux in the way to go. We all make a choice and move on.

The intent was not to bash Microsoft, it was to point out more the swaying in the breeze that they have come to. When it comes down to it they are just another big company wanting the consumer dollar.



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Reply #53 from WinCustomize Forums Top
but then again people must realize is that when ANY new OS comes out which includes and does not exclude windows,linux,unix,solaris ETC some people will like it some will not...the reason being is the new OS has more features and a completely different look plus it's got more security features some people will like these feature some will not, some people will love those features some will not.XP got good when SP1 was released and got greater when SP2 was released.vista is going to be the same way,when SP1 comes out it will be alot geater then what it is now.though i do agree they should of left all the "goodies" in there..and for ultimate users they should give us more since we paid what? 500 on over for the OS.as far as the UAC goes they should of did some type of "trusted platform" where if you install a program that has been from a company known to add malicious code such as spyware,adware ETC. it would decline the install..but company that are known NOT to add malicious code would be allowed to install.and if you go to a website that has malicious code that tries to self install the "trusted platform" will not allow it or will not allow you to on that site.
Reply #54 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Microsoft has got to listen this time. Forget the past. They need to set some goals on Vista and get to work otherwise they will have problems. Gates needs to get with his top men and start repairing some of the damage NOW. Goals should be as follows:-

1. Get SP1 out as soon as possible but only when it has been fully tried and tested. The initial feedback I have heard from testers is very good.
2. Get with some of the third party software and driver makers who are still having problems and help them.
3. Get those extra's and more to Ultimate users like they promised. No-one likes to be cheated on and this is causing a lot of customer 'bad feeling' and unneeded bad publicy for Microsoft.

Address these 'pretty big' issues and they should start winning the masses over and when I say masses I also mean the area that is most important to them too - the business sector - because at the moment most businesses will not touch it with a barge pole.
Reply #55 from WinCustomize Forums Top
because at the moment most businesses will not touch it with a barge pole.


Believe it or not, I know of companies still using Win2000...religiously adhering to it because XP, according to them, still hasn't proven itself.

Dunno whether or not that may be 'a why fix what ain't broken' or a cost saving thing, and it's not just in one or two companies, either. In fact, some are rather large Aussie businesses (insurance companies and the like), so it's not an isolated thing that's confined to small outfits.

In fact, I had a neighbour in Tasmania who ran a small volunteer organisation with 98SE as his OS of choice. He was adamant that XP was an over-bloated piece of crap that offered him nothing 98 couldn't, no matter what anyone said to the contrary.

I have to wonder how much of the dislike of Vista is a fear of change....people not wanting to step outside their comfort zone now that XP has become more stable/reliable.

Yeah, MS needs to address various Vista issues, but that was the same with XP in its infancy, wasn't it....now millions of people swear by XP as being most stable and THE OS of choice. Hopefully, MS will overcome these 'new OS' teething problems quickly and Vista is more widely accepted than it is now, because it is a good OS with great potential.
Reply #56 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Starkers, I agree with many of your sentiments and like you I hope Microsoft overcome these difficulties because I firmly believe that Vista can still be a very good platform and an improvement on XP   
Reply #57 from WinCustomize Forums Top
An OS is a tool to get your real job done.  CP/M (MS-DOS), 3.11, 95, 98, 98SE, ME, 2k, XP, Vista, *nix, OSX, Amiga, BeOS, OS/2 . . whatever. 

Does it run the apps you want?
Does it have the security level you need?
Does it run the hardware you have?

Everything else is marketing.

Until we had the newest version of whatever OS we use, we got by successfully with what came before.  I run Vista and XP for the most part (I don't remember when I last booted my G4) and they both take me here to WC.  Problem solved.