[Gameplay/Balance]

Not true, there is a penalty for missing.  If you miss, your opponent gets another chance to use his skill and you likely won't get another chance.

I would love to see a few "epic spells".

There's that, yes, but you still did a few hundred damage from the AOE effect and Hammer is pretty much the only instant-kill move in the game, and Rook's tough enough to survive long enough for the cooldown to come back up, currently.

I sort of agree.  If every skill had a long cooldown, then most of Demigod fighting would involve using auto attack, which is pretty boring.  Ability-based combat is much more interesting.  On the other hand, the lack of single "epic" spells is an important thing to note.

Demigod would likely benefit from the inclusion of DotA-esque Ultimate Abilities.  Those abilities encouraged planning ahead to set up situations where they could be used to the fullest effect (i.e. Frost Maiden ultimate or Lich ultimate).

I would have to agree with the two repliers.  I think its beneficial to have some short cooldown spells where the only real limiting reagant is the mana pool.  Heck, for some more variety in gameplay, you could even lower the cooldown further, along with their damage / mana cost.  This would provide the players with more options, more of the time.

I would also like to see some epic spells. Maybe spells that only had 1 level and could only be gotten at 15 or 20. ALso i agree with trig because when i was playing reg against another reg it became extremely aparent. If u missed with a spell, than theirs a huge chance u'd lose because of snipe.

Longer cooldown slower gameplay no thanks I want a 20 minute game not an hour

Longer cooldowns wouldn't necessarily make a longer game, it would just make each cast of a spell much more valuable, noticable, and fun. It won't slow down gameplay much if at all.

I think that long cooldowns will just serve to slow down the game.  You can't push if you don't have spells, so with a long cooldown, you are forced to spend more time waiting around.  Quickly refreshed abilities make things move a lot faster.  And you have to remember that if you somehow miss, you still have to wait for the cooldown while the other guy can hit you with his spell.  It is the same situation as if the spells had a long cooldown, except it happens faster.

I also agree that we could use some "epic" spells.  Very powerful/useful moves with a long cooldown.  One Ultimate per Demigod.  Perhaps this could be the answer to the Rook Roll?

Demigod goes plenty fast as it is. The cooldowns don't need to be so long that you won't have it for a push; they just need to be long enough that you're not using the same spell 3 times in the same skirmish against a demigod. Something like 30 seconds, maybe just 20 seconds, enough so that if you miss it you won't be able to use it until either you or your enemy dies or runs away. Rook's hammer is a very powerful ability, and none of the other demigods have anything that really compares, so in it either needs to be nerfed damage-wise or have a longer cooldown or mana cost. If the damage is lowered then it would just become a boring old nuke that you spam all day and whittle away at an enemy's health with. With a longer cooldown, perhaps 20 seconds, 30 seconds, or even 15, it becomes a move you save until just the right moment to annihilate an enemy. It means if you miss then your opponents have more than a few seconds to retaliate before you can use it again.

It's like I say "Longer cooldowns" but you guys read "Longer game". Did you even read what I said?

IMO, with a background of rpg playing and using a particular game for this example, cooldown times shouldnt be long at all expecially if games last around 20 mins or so.

10 secs cooldown is quite a long time (im guessing thats one of the most spammable skills) in a fast paced gamed, but then it all depends on balancing out strengths across all skills. Its not just about cooldown times, you got to take into consideration the skills 'purpose' and 'effect'.

Basic skill with low cooldown - Minimal damage but does more than base damage

Basic skill with status effect (stun) - Take into consideration the effectiveness of it and judge accordingly

AOE spell/skills - higher recharge (using 10 secs as being the most spammable skill), something like 25 - 40 secs cooldown. but it depends again.

IMO i think there really does need to be 1 or 2 basic spammable skills because (as mentions before) auto oattacking is boring...

hope this is clear

Right, I'm not saying every spell should be 30+ second cooldown or whatever. I'm just saying that there need to be more longer-cooldown spells to make battles more interesting.

I think the best way to put it is there ought to be a variety of spells with different cooldowns.  Some spells ought to be practically spammable, while some should have a significant amount of time in between uses (as much as a couple minutes).  This ensures that a variety of skills are used.

Right, I think my main point is just that longer cooldowns allows for more powerful spells.

minute's' is way too long for any one skill, but i dont mind 1min cooldown max. but cooldowns r easily adjustable anyway.

im not gonna say whats most appropriate or how it should be, but cooldowns are a very important factor of gameplay.

back to AOE though, usually they are quite strong and last for periods of time. With a reasonably long cooldown, players are forced to use these skills wisely depending on when its most effective (in this case in large groups). I know i wouldnt waste an AoE skill on 3 monsters when there could be a bigger more devastating group ahead.

With this in mind depending on the cooldown, the skills energy cost should vary. Long cooldown = average energy cost, short cooldown = higher energy cost.

This prevents ppl from spamming carelessly and seperates the 'skilled players' from the 'not-so-skilled players'.