Lets revisit this in a week. He might be the most OP DG in beta 3...

If you are talking about the game I'm thinking of I was the Torchbearer in that game. That was a fun game, also one of the longest I've had so far.

Also I have to say Fire mode is pretty strong. Recently I tried a game where I went all Fire and with the aid of some stat boosting items and a potions there were times when I could take on 2 enemy Demigods by myself.

The Torchbearer is VERY POWERFUL if you know its weaknesses and how to use them, I played quite a few games today and I use a hybrid of frost and fire to fit various situations, Rarely do i go pure fire or eeven more rarely pure ice

Fire TB is fine in terms of damage, survivability is minimal in comparison to ice form which has stuns and slows. He should at least have a replacement for flame circle though. It's too easy to avoid.

Also, a fire TB with any damaging combat hero is pretty intense. The fire aura makes the combat heroes extremely deadly and hard to avoid.

i believe tb is really good

fire mode is good at start of game, fireball and run and fireball and run again is very good

ice mode it isnt so good at start low dmg and good survability, but at late game he can really do huge dmg and escape with stuns slows.

To be honest Beta 2D I thought UB was a super-weak demigod. Then I saw some good strats which make him superior to any other DG if played right. Lets wait a few weeks before asking for balancing. Right now devs need to focus on bug fixes.

I agree about the PB AoE skills.  For the sake of variety, I think "Ring of Fire" should be a spell you cast from a distance on a circular area (sort of like the blizzard spell).

If nothing else, the casting time on the PB spells should be removed or significantly lowered, because having to stand still in the midst of enemies casting a spell is simply too dangerous  most of the time unless you're just fighting creeps.

Also, TB sounds like a psychotic muppet.

psycho

The one problem I have with TB is that his Fireball seems to be a little weak for the first level. I didn't pay too much attention, but I believe I was doing about 150 damage on auto attacks, which mean it was more efficient to auto attack as two hits would equal one fireball, and didn't require mana or a casting time. After the first upgrade, I didn't have that problem, though I did love doing 1350 damage (which the final upgrade )

Ring of fire does not have any uses other than killing creeps, which many other spells do better.

TB is really strong, i played some games with him. Just all fire builds. Sometimes the Start against Rook and Regulus is hard but with the right use of potions and equipment will make him a pain in the ass of everybody.

CoF is really usefull, first I cast FB then CoF, after that the instant area damage, runing away and normaly use FB to finish the opponent.

The same tactic do I use against towers.

tb is fine, how can you decide if he is balanced when he was just released less than a week ago.  also, like mentioned above, the priorty should be connection difficulties.  how can you fully scope out balance if the mass majority of games don't even come close to finishing?

who said casters need to always be far away?  yea he is squishy so buy some solid items.  i'm personally a fan of that artifact that reduces damage by 25%.  i enjoy the playstyle required to play tb.  not every dg has to be a cookie cutter class, they should be unique.  if we gave tb more range he would be more annoying than regulas.  utilize his aoe spells, he is meant to be in the heart of battle imo