DEVS - If you are going to take away Favor from Custom games, then we NEED Arranged Teams in Pantheon. Please Read!

I just read the disturbing point that in epoch I you would no longer be able to get favor points from custom games.  While I understand that some people abuse this system, there is one primary reason custom games are the most popular for most people:

Arranged Teams


I bought this game to play with my friends!  They bought it to play with friends as well.  Pantheon only lets you play with random people which is ALWAYS an EXTREME anoyance in strategy games.  You get hosed because of an unskilled teammate.  It does not cause any balance issue just to let people play together.  Both sides have the option as they do in most modern games (Dawn of War II, Company of Heroes, Warcraft III, ect)


please,Please,PLEASE consider adding arranged teams before you ever take away favor from a mode.  It will make it very hard to get get to play team games with your friends as the fervor rush goes to Pantheon and we all play with strangers.  This is not fun.  I gave Demigod it's first 10/10 on gamefaqs because I felt compelled to do so out of love of this unique and AWESOME experience that is Demigod; BUT even I cannot stand to play a game where ranked is all about forcing people to play with random people.  If this is ever to be a clan focused game, let us start playing the ranked games with each other right now!

Not everyone exploits the custom game system, and this only punishes those who do not.  Doesn't that sound familiar to the stardock stance on piracy,  not to punish those following the rules?

Just a thought!

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Reply #1 Top

Without arranged teams with ladders all of my friends and me quit the game. And i Tthink a lot of ppl will do, too.

SIGNED OP! I hate to play with randoms 80% of this games are wasting my time. I like to play with FRIENDS.

So far the game is 4/10. I'm dissapointed with the actual state of the game. Please learn form successful RTS.

Reply #2 Top

arranged teams are absolutely necessary.

Reply #3 Top

I think the Game is far better when we play with friends. For now, there isn't a lot of teamworks with random people.

Reply #4 Top

I have been playing with a friend and we have been having tons of fun getting better and working on new strats, I know this is a game we will be playing for a very long time. If custom game rewards are taken away and we are forced to play with random noobs with different ideas of strategy or play together and get no rewards we will lose intrest very quickly.

 

This game is facing alot of challenges but if handled correctly this will be a top game (it already is to me) I have trust in Stardock, they have been working very hard so far.

Reply #5 Top

So dumb to not have arranged teams..what were they thinking?

 

who wants to play a ladder system with randoms every time..

Reply #6 Top

hear hear

we need more player interactivity.

 

we really need to be able to chat with each other inside the game.

Reply #7 Top

they where thinking patheon should real skill to win, rather then stacking teams vrs noobs like dow2 allows.

Reply #8 Top

whiteskull, both sides have equal chance to team up, or to not team up, and as you move up the ladder you face harder opponents.  Besides, how is it "real skill" to lose time and again to a stranger ally that constantly runs to his death feeding them gold?  Or leaves early?

 

Arranged teams is a must.  This game is on the edge of a blade between becoming THE next great online game played by all for years, or forgotten, based on these types of decisions.

Reply #9 Top

Joining into a game with 4 team mates that have no clue what they are doing wont show off your skill, unless you just look at how much better you did then them when looking at the screen saying your side lost. Doing custom games against other people who are teaming up with friends or clan members on vent or w/e will show skill.

 

If they'll knock AI out of Pantheon already then all those loners that wanna play with random people will have an alternative to custom games that might have a preset team as opponents. If you enjoy AI then you have Skirmish.

Reply #10 Top

Arranged teams are a must, but it should be arranged teams vs. arranged teams, randoms vs. randoms. Not everybody has friends who play the game, or wants to commit to a clan. They still should have a chance to play other games than just custom maps. Arranged team, especially one using Vent or other vc versus bunch of randoms isn't even a game, it just assrape. With a log. With spikes on it. Really :/

Reply #11 Top

ya kinda obvious there.. especially for ladder play.. clans etc.. you need some sort of arranged team system..in the pantheon..can't stack against noobs.. ya so join a clan and play 5v5's or 3v3's.. not buncha randoms vs buncha friends.. and hell right now.. you get 2 feederbots.. and 1 leavernoob who's a feederbot until he decides to PP and then becomes a superfeederbot with items.. woohoo..

 

++@ksmosi... that's why they have Instant action skirmish.. i know it doens't work right now.. but they at least but that in there.. although why have 2 random instant actions?? kinda bad lolz pantheon random- Skirmish-Random.. my lord.. so many bumps

Reply #12 Top

""Arranged teams are a must, but it should be arranged teams vs. arranged teams, randoms vs. randoms. ""

 

 

THAT i can live with, but what normal happens is those friend teams end up steam rolling randoms 20-0 in a single day over and over and over, while only facing other friend teams once in a blue moon.

 

if you want your teams then do custom games there ya go, and you can make sure you only face skill teams in return, after all thats what you want right?

Reply #13 Top

++@ksmosi... that's why they have Instant action skirmish.. i know it doens't work right now.. but they at least but that in there.. although why have 2 random instant actions?? kinda bad lolz pantheon random- Skirmish-Random.. my lord.. so many bumps

Dunno if skirmish is ranked. If it is, no problem there. If not, well, it would be nice for randoms to play some kind of ranked matches too. It's more about luck ofc, but still, they'd be on their own ladder :)

And hey, to help push your side towards victory, too!

Reply #15 Top

Agreed.

However - Custom Games can ONLY give you favour points IF default settings are on (with the game mode varying) and NO a.i

Reply #16 Top

Yeah, this is really going to scew the game up for good if they implement this...

Reply #17 Top

Yeah, it'd be a big plus if arranged teams were in.

 

If it were added I too would like the matchmaking to be heavily weighted against matching arranged teams vs randoms.

Reply #18 Top

It's getting fixed:

 

4. Favor Points and such. There’s some annoying stuff happening with favor points which is related to the ranking system in Demigod as well. First off, we plan to reset the rankings at some point when we enter Epoch 1 (we are in Epoch 0 presently game-wise, I’ll explain Epochs later but in short, every so often we’re going to reset the rankings, save the results as an epoch and go from there). In Epoch 1, custom games won’t count anymore as there’s too many ways to game it.

Reply #20 Top

Yes arranged teams, and what is up with the lack of community features. Even the ingame friends chat is broken!??

No way to invite people to games? 

 

Wow, just wow. This is like picking up ancient old internet technology that lacks all the basic features that lobbyes, games, instant messenger services have.

 

Even the IRC chat is bad, cant create new windows so you can switch channels and backlog..

 

Sad to see this game released too early

Reply #21 Top

I also agree, pantheon would be much more fun if you could work together with your friends towards the goal of winning the game... i'm not entirely sure what the logic of not supporting this is

Dawn of War 2 features a similar 'ranked match' system where the servers will matchmake for people, however using the GFW overlay you can invite your friends to your team AND THEN search for a game... not saying the Dawn of War 2 matchmaking system is without flaw, but i thought it was totally awesome that you could do that

Reply #22 Top

you gotta give a game more than a week to develop a competitve community

yes there should be 2v2 3v3 4v4 and 5v5 automatch but that will hopefully come in an update, as it did in COH

Reply #23 Top

/signed. Pantheon is the GAYEST thing ever. If you wish to promote actually TEAMWORK inside of your game, then kill it.

Reply #24 Top

in a peer2peer system i think there are going to be so many options for kicking other players out of the game @_@

Reply #25 Top

No, you know what, I like the Pantheon the way it is.  If they want to add additional modes for what you guys are requesting, that's cool.  But I don't see any reason scrap the current Pantheon system.