Rook (me) versus Erebus, Dominate

You should have put poitns into boulders. Also, what was Erebus doing to you? Would he run in or Bat in? Would be bite then stun or the opposite?

Maybe you should have boldered, then fed off one of your towers, then kept on attaching him, repeate. Gotta wear him down. If he starts to get low and you are ok on health maybe save a boulder for when he's at like 1/4 his health so you can maybe finish him before he bats away or uses bite again.

P.S. maybe a minion build is the counter to tower rook /shrug. Erebus's minions are really weak though.

Boulder roll, then Orb of defiance while he's in your tower farm, then boulder roll again.

That said, not all builds are viable against all builds.

A well-played (meaning fake smashes) fast bouldersmash rook can make Erebus run away quick.

probably has alot to do with equipment choices. Erebus can gain immense survivability by taking mostly Armor equipment, since his Bite ability naturally restores a pretty large amount of health. Rook is particularly weak against this since his towers, regular attacks, and shoulder turrets are all mitigated by armor. 

You can actually micro manage your towers, double click them and order them to attack the DG you want.

You loose control of your DG when you select your towers so make sure u re select him ASAP.

Simply click your portrait in the down middle next to your spells or click anywhere in an empty space.

As an avid Erebus player, Rook, is usually an easy target for me to get to and slaughter.

I'm making assumptions, since I don't know both your builds and exactly what happened but....

Erebus has nightwalkers, which can be upgraded to have added health and damage, so he could have them either maul towers and draw damage while Erebus focuses on you, or have them attack you as well for added dps.

Plus, he can teleport past your tower line to get to you behind it, teleport out of range of towers after attacking you, and teleport to catch up to your immensley slow ass if you try to run away. Also, bite slows you down and removes armor.

At level 10, I'm assuming he had max bite, which means he was draining 900 health everytime he bit you, might of had an item that gave him lifesteal or lots of hps. Or, used a Potion or 2.

In my experience, and this is something that I guess generally works for everyone, to win a 1v1 battle when I'm Erebus, the other Demigod either has to be able to outdamage me so I run away first so I don't die(UB or TB sometimes), or he has to have so much health and healing ability he outlasts me (Sedna and QoT, Oak too)

With the build I use, by level 10 I have like 10 nightwalkers, max bite, +15 hps from poisoned blood, a teleport that does damage, and a small stun. Plus, with the way I get my items, usually have basically unlimited pool of mana at that point as well.

Plus, his stun can stop your hammer slam and also stop you from Tele-Scrolling to safety. I love doing that lol.

If cards are played right and I'm able to save gold up or get some early kills, I can get mage slayer that give me +45 damage, increased attack speed and like 12% lifesteal by level 10 as well.

A well played, leveled, and equipped Erebus can usually beat a rook 1v1 because I've got a lot of tools, and the fight doesn't end until I leave or refuse to chase you past some towers.

 First of all, a smart rook would slam all of your minions if you went minion build and brought them close to his towers, assuming he was even a tower rook. Second of all, the build you describe sort of assumes your EXP and gold granted. Looking at your build, you are NOT playing to counter a rook, rather just to be a hero. You'll LITERALLY be slammed into pieces without mist. The rook will out-farm you in general, because he's a farming machine. You try to go on the aggressive, you'll either walk into a slam and have to run or way, or will lose half your HP and will be forced to retreat completely. Thats more EXP/Gold for the rook that you aren't gaining. Also, you assume the Rook to be slow. He is as fast as any other demigod, and it's pretty standard for every demigod to stack move speed, Rook ESPECIALLY; So to assume he's 'immensely' slow...I think you're just spoiled fighting stupid pugs in pantheon. Just pointing out the flaws in your build and logic...

However, Erebus in general is a very solid counter against rook, and I could say the same to the OP about not fighting any good Erebus'. A smart erebus vs a smart rook 1v1, erebus wins; NOT including the factor of flags, lane control, micro-management (farming gold/exp), and TEAMMATES!

Tower's tend to not do much dmg late game. You know you can actually select them and make them target something? I found this out...helps a lot.

Playing a tower rook, you can't afford to let your enemy get too far ahead. If he stacks armor, those tower shots tend to hurt a lot less....my 2 cents.

Wow Extacide, kinda hostile to someone who admitted he was making some assumptions and was trying to offer up some guesses on why the guy was having trouble.  I'm trying to learn to play Rook and Erebus scares the hell out of me... and thanks to Ohlorde I now know why.

Oh wow, have fun playing against DGs without boulder or hammer.

He doesn't even mention the use, or the obtainment of the one skill that GIMPS rook against erebus in any one vs one fight. Lol...

Instead of parading around this thread like some giant ass why don't you try to offer the OP some help on how to play a better rook instead of seemingly headhunting for someone's post to point out any flaws or something you think they left out?

The OP said he's never played as Erebus, so I was trying to offer some insight about how "I" (not grandmaster-apparently-all-knowing-Extacide) usually play against a Rook, and how I think he may be being beaten.

Instead of everything I wrote, why don't I go back to edit and rewrite it to say "Welp, he was playing a better Erebus than you you were playing Rook. L2P Loser!" Would that help him at all?

Also, you assume that the OP is playing a style which you call a "Smart Rook". Maybe he's not, according to you at least. We can sit here all day and go back and forth about how Erebus will win in this situation if he does this and Rook will win in this situation if he does this, which is a waste of time.

So, I'm sure the OP will find your posts much more interesting if you stopped "pointing out the flaws" in other people's builds and logic and give him some advice about how you would play a Smart Rook versus Erebus, what you think? Otherwise you look like you're just on these forums to bash people you think are wrong by being rude and insulting people to get into silly childish arguments on the internet. Go play Xbox.

Something that may help your Tower Rook game which hasn't already been pointed out is Citadel Upgrades.  When you're playing a build that isn't very dependant on personal items Citadel upgrades are the best place to funnel your cash.  Tower farms are much more effective when supported by Priets and Angels as early as possible.  Use your terrain and creeping advantage to boost your Warscore early and out-upgrade your opponents, as they are likely focusing on personal items.

I'd give advice on Rook, but that'd be going too far into my personal playstyle and my attempt at staying unique. At the same time, I'm a forum whore.

minions are not as fast as erebus, minions will always be behind a general, if you run away only erebus and ranged idols will be hitting you, a possible tactic if erebus got a large number of nightcrawler minions if you dont have boulder hammer skill.

rook advice not to this situation:

-ask a team mate to start then disrupt a teleport to one of your towers if you want oponent to run away, i find it frightening people can use rooks towers as a goal for teleport.

-when i play with rooks i often use their towerfarms to get easy kills once the oponent is already weak telepot to a rook tower then get easy kill huge diffrense that a rook always got a teleport target close to them.

lol, it's all good homey.

This isn't directly related to helping out the OP, but I was hoping he (or one of the many smart Rook players here) could help me with a question. When Rook dies, do his towers also die instantly in the way that a General's minions do? Because I played a game with a tower-Rook ally and his towers seemed to be constantly pinning the enemy back in their base despite that fact that he wasn't that good and spent a lot of the time dead. Honestly I may have just not been paying attention (you might be able to guess why if you find out that when we won I had 19 flag caps and he had 3) and missed him casting them, but I'm almost sure that Rook's towers last until their duration expires even if the Rook that summoned them dies. Can someone confirm or deny that? Thanks.

Hey there wwwolf123

I got exactly the same problem as you with Rook vs Erebus.

I tried the Boulder roll against him and it didnt go very will even with 2 towers and about 8 Rook towers around me.

I have also tried the Hammer, but since its so slow he will notice it and will move or bite me to avoid it. Trying to trick him with the hammer will just result in a bite and add more time before you can use it again.

So i simply dont see a counter for the erebus, will keeping an eye on this thread if someone finds a way

Thats one way of putting it when you dont know how

Playing rook is not about 1v1 he is not a killer but a pusher. erebus 1v1 is far better than rook , if you try to stand up and fight a n erebus you will lose if he not terrible.