Unclean Beast - Great Build

Hello,

I'm new here, I've just played this game and I gotta say I'm so amazed!

It's so great, but I gotta say, that I'm kind of a newbie in skills building.

I've searched on this forums for builds, but I still want to know one straight,

which would be great, 'fast and huge hits with skills and normal touches'.

Could anyone be bothered to write a GREAT FIGHT BUILD for Unclean beast?

I would be very graceful.

 

Best Regards

Chev

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Reply #1 Top

Hmmm, let' see.....

Put your points on all three passive abilities (the one makes you faster speed/attack, the one makes normal attack makes enemy slows down, the one makes your normal attack makes enemy explode when they die)

 

And put your points on spit and foul grasp. Max them out completely with those three passive abilities and two active abilities.

 

In early stage of the game, start with cheapest helmet, one health potion, one mana potion and totem of revelation for greater sight.

 

In EARLY stage, do not engage other demigods carelessly; just use spit to damage them and force them out of battle so they won't get experience points from killing creeps. But, of course, it is good to get some oppounity for killing if they don't seem to understand how powerful spit is. If his hp is down to 300, just spit him and disengage from the battle; he will die.

 

Once you kinda outlevel them/him and reached level 5, it is time to do some killing. Do this following, for instance.

 

Spit -> engage in melee combat for a while-> use foul grasp to decrease enemy demigod's hp to less than 500~700 -> use spit on him again.

After that you may choose to chase him to finish off or disengage from the battle if your hp is also low. The good chance is that he will die from spit's damage anyway (exception is Senda, you may want to chase her and finish her)

Well, also do not forget get BOTH healing potions and mana potions. Healing potions if you don't have enough money. It will do a favor much more worth than its cost.

Now, if you dispose enemy demigod several times (but you didn't die much often as well) or makes him not to engage you willingly, start killing towers and other buildings using spit, and continue to advance with ABSOLUTE care.

 

Now items.....

First, get first (in order of cheapest) helmet. -> 2nd boot for speed -> 2nd armour for hp-> 4th helmet and replce first helmet with 3rd helmet. -> now focus on damage (buy some gloves) and hp/armour.

This will provide you enough mana for spits (you will run out of mana pretty fast if you don't invest yourself on this area), speed to survive. Rest is up to you.

 

Now you won this game several times and you MIGHT have access to favor items if you are lucky and favor points are not 0, then get either speedy item (450 favor pts) in normal favor item section or slow-down item (850ish favor pts) in Assassin only item selection. Both are great for their purpose. I prefer and recommend speed item over anythig else anyway because NOT DYING IS the MOST important thing in this game.

 

....Hope this helps.

 

Plus : For citadel upgrades... likewise you need to do this WITH other teammates... Make sure get first building health upgrade to make buildings heal themselves. Then focus on gold income upgrades, and finally creeps (both armour/attack and advanced creeps)

Reply #2 Top

Sure it helps, thank you man.

Hmmm...

 - So "Ooze" and "Bestial Wrath" skills are useless? Or should I put any point in them?

 - Well I love this Bracelet of Speed also, it gives 15% Movement speed, I was also buying 2x shoes (15% and 10% Movement Speed)

Thanks again for reply! Now it will be easier for me.

 

 

 

 

(P.S Sorry for my english)

Reply #3 Top

Always get spit when available.

Get post mortem as soon as it becomes available, since it will massively help you farm creep.

I like to pump inner beast and enchanced attributes otherwise.

 

Ooze I find to be to weak to bother with.

Foul grasp can be ok, depending on who you are fighting.

bestial wrath isnt enugh bonus for my liking.

diseased claws I dont usually bother with, since a good player will avoid being hit in the first place. Get +movement things (see below) and you wont need this. The % is too low anyway.

 

For start of game I like to take the +15% movement favor item and the +10% boots. Movement speed is vital bther for chasing down enemy demigods and escaping. As well as the trips to and from your base.

Next item I like is the flemish helm. It will fix your mana woes and allow you to spit a lot, which is your main tool in the first half of the game.

After that, I like the seed of life (?) ornament that restores your HP and MP every 30 seconds.

Depending on who im fighting I may go for the armor of the crusader or plate of vengeance. This is good if your fighting people with a lot of physical/melee attacks.

After that I save up for the mageblade, then the orb of veiled storms. If you've got this far, youve probably won the game.

If not, then good items to get are the deathbringer, ashkander, and the all father ring, depending on what you can afford at the time.

 

For citadel upgrades, always buy the health regen tower upgrade ASAP. Always buy gold upgrades ASAP. Dont buy priests until you're ready to upgrade several steps, because it will just feed the enemy xp. The first step for xp and tower damage are good too, since they are pretty cheap.

 

Use your extra speed to outcap the enemy on flags. You will get more war rank, and be able to buy gold upgrades faster, which is one of the most important things to win.

Dont charge tough enemies or rooks with hammer slam. Soften them up with some spits/runaway/spit/run away first.If they run into their base, try and get a spit off before you stop chase. They will often die before they reach their crystal.

Make sure to hold gold mines as much as possible.

Reply #4 Top

If you mean that you want a build focused mainly on Melee (hitting) and doing Big Damage, then you want to put points into the following skills every time you get a chance (and ignore the people who tell you, "...but max out Venomous Spit!". Believe it or not, Unclean Beast can do just fine without them.)

My melee build in the past has looked like this (and it requires some serious gold and a very good Favor item to REALLY shine, but when you can manage this...no one will want to let you get within a few feet of them, trust me!).

** Start with ONE skill point in Venomous Spit (This is the ONLY point I put in Spit for this build, for early game harassing and finsihing off fleeing Demigods).

** When it's available, put ONE skill point in Foul Grasp (I use it for stuns/interrupts only).

After that, *every time you get the chance*, put a point into whichever of these is available to you:

A) Inner Beast (Passive movement and attack speed bonus).

B ) Bestial Wrath (Activate for a short but hefty boost to Weapon Damage).

C) Base stats (the gold circle with the big white + at the bottom of your screen...passive Weapon Damage and other bonuses).  If you have a choice between A), B ), or C)...choose A) or B ). When you can't upgrade those because they are not available, go for C).

** Once you have A) and B ) only 1 point away from Maxed Out, if C) is lagging behind....keep dumping points into it until it is also nearly maxed out.

This type of build gives you very nasty attack speed, movement speed, and weapon damage bonuses from skillpoints only. Add in the bonus from using Bestial Wrath before every fight, and you've already got a pretty nasty melee Demigod. Now comes the trickier part; Items to *really* make this guy (as the game commentator says) "GODLIKE!"

FAVOR ITEM: Furious Blades (+250 HP, 5% passive bonus to attack speed, AND a 15% chance to proc a 30% bonus to attack speed...and it procs often!)

A) 2nd set of gloves (5% attack Speed) early on.

B ) Plenor Battlecrown (You need this to increase your mana pool early on).

C) Heart of Life. I cannot overstate this one enough; Heart. Of. Life. It costs 4250 gold. You might have trouble in the early part of the game resisting the urge to buy OTHER things, but fight it. Save up for the HoL. Being able to turn from a fight, run away a bit and click the HoL to rapidly regen ALL your HitPoints and ALL your Mana is vital- not just to the UB but to all DGs if you ask me.

D) Hauberk of Life: Extra HP and HP regen.

E) Wyrmskin gloves (+15 weapon damage and a proc for extra damage over time...I believe).

F) ARTIFACT: Mageslayer (I think it's 25% attack speed bonus and a big boost to weapon damage).

G) ARTIFACT: Orb of Storms (another 25% or 30% to attack speed, plus a clickable 500 damage AoE effect).

I'll tell you this, right now; with this particular build (it will still work without the Furious Blades favor item, but takes a bit more finesse), you can basically walk up to a Tower and melee it down before the enemy even finishes hearing the "Our defenses are under attack" message. Fighting enemy Demigods really is a lot of fun when they expect you to Spit on them and instead you hit Bestial Wrath (UB roars) and walk right up to them to beat them down.

Give it a whirl; she's nasty. :)

Reply #5 Top

Lawl, both Vladesch and my post are almost same except diseased claws and some items (for good reasons)

 

Yes, do not bother Ooze bestial wrath.... Ooze is usually resulted as waste of points and sometimes put yourself in danger due to decrease of hp.

Bestial wrath has a delay on the ability and short duration time ruins things. For UB the most important thing in mid-late game is whether you can catch and grasp your opponent. An ability with delay just ruins this whole picture.

Diseased claws indeed has small bonus, but it can be very useful to against demigods who also have crapload of speed boot, and some other characters also have passive speed boost.... so claws ensure they don't escape. but as Vladesch mentioned AE can be good substitution.

Reply #6 Top

Fractallion's build seems very dependant on your enemies not pushing or creep denying your UB early game.  I've found a steady stream of lesser upgrades to be much more beneficial than saving up for larger purchases, especially with the somewhat fragile early-game UB.  Only one rank of Spit is absolutely viable, but only if you make heavy use of it early game for harassment to psuh an advantage.  If you're unable to score early hero kills with the above build then you'll likely be pushed back to your towers and lose map control against experienced opponents.

Reply #7 Top

Fractallicon's stat can be worked, but I doubt any decent player would do melee against UB in the first place...

 

And if you don't get post mortem and plague you will have huge problem against creeps in late game as well.

Reply #8 Top

Quoting Chevilles, reply 2
Sure it helps, thank you man.

Hmmm...

 - So "Ooze" and "Bestial Wrath" skills are useless? Or should I put any point in them?

 - Well I love this Bracelet of Speed also, it gives 15% Movement speed, I was also buying 2x shoes (15% and 10% Movement Speed)

Thanks again for reply! Now it will be easier for me.


(P.S Sorry for my english)

 

No.  No skill is useless.  While I don't often play UB, Ooze especially is a deadly skill.  I play Sedna, who is nearly as fast as UB, but if I get oozed, suddenly that slight edge goes away, and it becomes a lot harder to run when I need to.  Vladesh's suggestions are certainly good, but don't let people tell you that any skill is worthless.  (Note that Vladesh didn't say they were worthless, I just don't want you to take it the wrong way.)  It's all down to personal preference.  Play around with your skills and see what works best for you.

Reply #9 Top

Quoting wnmnkh, reply 7
Fractallicon's stat can be worked, but I doubt any decent player would do melee against UB in the first place...

WHo says they're going to have a choice? B)

I've used this build in multiple games. I hit my opponents 4 times for huge damage before they can hit me twice. I'm the Demigod version of a food processor at that point. More often than not, by the time they figure out they'll lose the fight if they stay it's already too late. They either fight and die, or try to run and die.

 

Reply #10 Top

See, for example your stat would be useless against decent regulus who mastered MoB and Mines with long range attacks...

Rook surrounded by towers....

And a smart fire TB with some ice skills.....

And even with this, you really can't beat Oak with proper stat in late game as well..

 

The problems are your skills are very melee-oriented and does not mention creep control and ranged demigods.

 

/my 2 cents.

Reply #11 Top

Quoting PhantomOfAres, reply 8


 

No.  No skill is useless.  While I don't often play UB, Ooze especially is a deadly skill.  I play Sedna, who is nearly as fast as UB, but if I get oozed, suddenly that slight edge goes away, and it becomes a lot harder to run when I need to.  Vladesh's suggestions are certainly good, but don't let people tell you that any skill is worthless.  (Note that Vladesh didn't say they were worthless, I just don't want you to take it the wrong way.)  It's all down to personal preference.  Play around with your skills and see what works best for you.

 

Hmmm, Ooze only slows attack speed (which is actually good in late games... the last two points are usually go for Ooze to slow down some attack speed freaks).... it does not slow down your movement speed.

The one that slows you down is diseased claws which I mentioned. And with another passive skills and beast's basic skills, Beast is almost always outrun Senda disregarding items.

Reply #12 Top

get bestial wrath only once u hit level 15 or so, but its not needed

Reply #13 Top

Quoting wnmnkh, reply 10
See, for example your stat would be useless against decent regulus who mastered MoB and Mines with long range attacks...

Rook surrounded by towers....

And a smart fire TB with some ice skills.....

And even with this, you really can't beat Oak with proper stat in late game as well..

 

The problems are your skills are very melee-oriented and does not mention creep control and ranged demigods.

 

/my 2 cents.

-Creeps getting hit by a Demigod with an approximate attack speed bonus of *at least* 80% (or whatever the cap is, not even sure) and a huge bonus to Weapon Damage don't last long, Plague or otherwise.

I've played this build multiple times. It's not something I came up with that just looks good on paper. But then, I'm a very strong proponent of coming up with what works for you, and of coming up with builds that are outside cookie-cutter templates. Sure, I can play the usual Venomous Spit build. I'll slap on Swift Anklets and Boots of Speed, run around with my 25% movement speed bonus at the very beginning of the game, and grab flags and leave before anyone can get there. I can max out spit, land one on an enemy, and retreat before they can attack me more than once. But really....boooring (it's how I played my first 40 games or so as UB).

By maxing out Bestial Wrath, Inner Beast, almost maxing baseline stats, and 1 point each in Spit and Grasp...you still have points leftover. You can still take Plague if you really want to.

-MoB only really annoys me if I use any sort of ability...and frankly, with this melee build I can skimp on Bestial Wrath when I know I've been hit with MoB. The baseline stats from abilities and items are more than enough to kill a Demigod.

-A TB won't be able to kill me before I can close range with him, Grasp him, and melee his hitpoints down to nothing, snare or otherwise.

-Regulus can Snipe me. That's it. Getting even remotely close to me = Grasp, melee'd, dead.

Before you poopoo it, try it out! Please believe me when I say that no Demigod in the game, even a tank Rook, lasts more than 5 or 6 seconds against this particular build when it's complete. The amount of damage per hit, plus the frankly ridiculous speed I deliver said hits at, is just too much to handle.

Reply #14 Top

I've recently been playing around with an "oozer" beast.  Ooze kills enemy demigod DPS and deals huge amounts of damage in the melee, making it a great skill from start to finish.

First skill, you still want spit.  This deals great damage, it scares off some of the "squishy" demigods like Regulus that might otherwise give you trouble, and gives you at least one ranged attack if you need to make a killing blow against a 200 HP demigod.  However, we will not add any more points to it.

At level 2, I get inner beast, and at level 3 I diseased claws.  You need to be able to outrun another demigod to make a kill as a non-spitting beast, so these skills are a must before we even get rolling.  At this point, however, you can actually kill a demigod like Regulus who gets a little too aggressive.  At level 4, I get my first point into ooze, and at level 5 I get the foul grasp.  This will allow you to cancel key abilities that the enemy may be using.

From this point, I add points to ooze and inner beast as needed, but may also get beastial wrath.  Typically, however, I save beastial wrath for the higher levels.  An oozer will deal most of his damage in the early levels by oozing.  Once you have ooze and inner beast maxed out, beastial wrath is your next hit though.  By level 20 you'll have a wicked melee character with an awesome AoE attack and a stun to interrupt.

Reply #15 Top

When I use UB, I do bestial wrath, the passive slow down attack, and the passive speed UB up. I buy items that increase attack speed and damage, and then I whomp on people before they can react. I usually go for the exploding corpse/plague skill later on, and either foul grasp or increased stats depending on whether i feel I need a stun or not. It works pretty well for me. :-)

Reply #16 Top

I always get wand of speed since it is quite cheap and give a big movement bonus when you need it. The casting is instant.

Reply #18 Top

Oh my, thanks you all for exhausting replies. I believe in that,

your skill builds will help me a lot in this game.

And of course I will try all of your builds.

I feel weak with my build which I was always using hehe

I was concentrating always on Mana Regeneration,

some HP in items and a big Movement Speed

(15% in Bracelet / 15% in shoes / 10% in shoes

which were giving me 40% Movement Speed...

(70% + 70% Mana Eegeneration [both in Helmets]

I think it was my mistake)

Skills which I was mastering were like:

Level 1 - Vemon Spit

Level 2 - Bestial Wrath

Level 3 - Ooze

Level 4 - Venom Spit

Level 5 - Foul Gras

Level 6 - Post Mortem

Level 7 - Venom Spit

Level 8 - Bestial Wrath

Level 9 - Bestial Wrath

Level 10 - Venom Spit

Level 11 - Foul Grasp

Level 12 - Bestial Wrath

Level 13 - Post Mortem

Level 14 - Diseased Claws

Level 15 - Venom Spit

Level 16 - Foul Grasp

Level 17 - Bestial Wrath

Level 18 - Post Mortem

Level 19 - Putrid Flow

Level 20 - Inner Beast

 

bad isn't it?

 

Thank you all for a big afford from your side! I really appreciate it

 

 

p.s: Nice one Sean, thanks for it ;)

Reply #19 Top

He does use a little mana, but I wouldn't focus on the mana as much as attack and damage, and for ooze it would be good to get some healt regen. (I don't know if you were in beta, but ooze used to take mana instead of health per second, and it took me some time to get used to it.)

the speed boosts sound pretty good. I haven't ever put that many speed boost items on him before. I find that his passive speed increase and a pair of boots is usually enough, but that is an interesting idea. He must be unbelievably speedy with all of that. But also, wand of speed would be a good remedy that takes less of your available non-consumable item slots

Reply #20 Top

No, I play since yesterday, so I bet I don't play since beta hehe

Yes, Moving speed is blawsome!! ^^

So I should try Ooze instead of?

Reply #21 Top

As others have said there are kinda two ways to go, there's the spit/ooze/grasp combo and then there's the massive melee dmg builds.

The spit/ooze/grasp really tends to dominate mid game. If you let things go on too long you'll get yourself into trouble as DPS builds will start to ruin you. This is the beast I usually play and focus on Armor/Health, Mana, and boots of speed since almost all of your damage is coming from skills. I usually get  at least one point in the diseased claws. I tend to not max spit, get all but the last point. The 500 area damage isn't all that great. Max grasp, and max ooze. Get post mordum as suggested for creeping. You'd be suprised how quickly you can tear through DGs when spit/ooze/grasp are all ticking away. The attack slow from ooze is awesome as well. Trick here is to pick off DGs that are away from their friends. Rush in, spit, grasp with ooze active. Get the kill, run away. Rinse and repeat.

So again, take spit whenever possible. Get grasp at level 5 and post mordum when available. Grap the passive speed buff first, and then leftovers to diseased claws. Clear as mud? Sorry, I'm lazy.

The melee builds I don't have as much experience with, but follow what the others have said. Tends to really blossom later in the game, though even one point in spit can really help early on with harass and removing towers.

Reply #22 Top

Personally I go for basically the spit/ooze/grasp build described above, but I don't feel that it excludes melee lategame at all, as I can easily max out Inner Beast and Bestial Wrath by the late game, which is pretty much all you need to murder folk right up, with artifacts of course. Although it doesn't have much build info, I also made an Unclean Beast thread over here that talks a bit more about the non-build part of Beast strategy and his role in the game, which you might find helpful.