Late game performance is irrelevant: Focus on early game!

I read a ton of posters who say something along the lines of "When I get leveled up, I dominate but I keep dying early game."

My message to you is that, in 80% of games, your late build is irrelevant.  Every demigod (except QoT) dominates in the late game.  What really matters is who can get there first.

Learn how to do these things:

  • Spend more time in the lane than the enemy.  (Send enemy running, don't die, kill every once in a while)
  • Cap and keep flags.

If you can't do these, a late game build won't help.

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Reply #1 Top

And the order you get your skills matters more then what you get overall. :D

Reply #3 Top

Mid game is more important, as it sets the framework for how the rest of the game will progress. You can make a comback by mid-game, but after that, it becomes very hard to win if you aren't already.

 

Essentially, Midgame>Early Game>Lategame.

 

Midgame is most important for two reasons. First, because it's when most Demigods start to really play to their strengths, but also because each side will begin gaining access to important upgrades(cats, and later giants). For this reason it's imperetive that you keep the pressure up during this time. Likewise, it's at this point where you can turn the game around if you've been keeping your warscore up. At this point in the game, DGs will be gaining enough power to push, and generals will gain much of their killing power, moving the game forward at a much faster pace.

 

I like to end the game around the midgame period, as Erebus' skills tend to scale fairly badly after the midgame point(although his stats scale very well after that point).

Reply #4 Top

I think it is very dependant on the team strategy. If your team are well coordinated to arrive at late game before your opponent do (everyone chip in for early ashkandor etc), this "early late game" is going to wreck havoc.

However, considering most team are mostly not coordinated, I agree with TheGuildfordStrangler (do you have to have such a long name?).

Reply #5 Top

Quoting Fhoeng, reply 4
(do you have to have such a long name?).
End of Fhoeng's quote

 

TheStrangler sounded too generic, and TheStranglers sounded too obvious, not to mention tacky..

Reply #6 Top

Yeah End Game is pretty bad for a Rook sometimes, especially vs a late game UB player or a demi of similar agressive playing.

Best thing I do is try not to die early game giving them gold for upgrades or items early on then start being more agressive and trying to get kills/push myself mid game and hope it doesn't grind into a lategame fiasco. (glares at guild)

Reply #7 Top

...Wasn't my fault I held the artifact shop for the entire game...

 

Besides, I wouldn't call it a fiasco... more of a clusterfuck. More mooks on the field then you could even count(my processor was even feeling a little pain through all that), and me making at least half a dozen suicide runs through your base. Cap'd your portal... what? Twice? 3 times? Then you'd just sit in front of it and Hulk Smash the entire wave just as it spawned.

The winning blow was on the part of some wicked good teleporting(through your citadel in order to stop you and your cronies from reaching me). And running the hell away from you.

 

Really though, it was up in the air, as I find most late games are. It really came down to me destroying the fortifications around your base before you got to mine, which was done about midgame, when I got giants. That further supports my claim that midgame means everything.

Easily the craziest game I've ever had though.

Reply #8 Top

ive won games where the team doubled us in kills and gold, beat us in war rank. we just turtled untill we had enough gold to buy enough artifacts to push back

Reply #9 Top


Every demigod (except QoT) dominates in the late game.
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This is wrong.

 

My message to you is that, in 80% of games, your late build is irrelevant.  Every demigod (except QoT) dominates in the late game.  What really matters is who can get there first.

Learn how to do these things:

  • Spend more time in the lane than the enemy.  (Send enemy running, don't die, kill every once in a while)
  • Cap and keep flags.

If you can't do these, a late game build won't help.

End of quote

This is right.

Reply #10 Top

Quoting muusbolla, reply 9




quoting post

Every demigod (except QoT) dominates in the late game.



This is wrong.

 
End of muusbolla's quote

I agree. Late game QoT with heavy minion build is both unstoppable and able to deal high damage (though unable to chase).

Reply #11 Top

the OP is right about end-game dominance though. some DG's have better endgames then others, period. full stop. 

 

Regulus, Beast, and Oak are the strongest DG's at level 20. QoT peaks around level 12. she can certainly be quite strong in the endgame as well, but in relative power level terms she is strongest at level 12ish not level 18-20. 

Reply #12 Top

Quoting transitive, reply 11
the OP is right about end-game dominance though. some DG's have better endgames then others, period. full stop. 

 

Regulus, Beast, and Oak are the strongest DG's at level 20. QoT peaks around level 12. she can certainly be quite strong in the endgame as well, but in relative power level terms she is strongest at level 12ish not level 18-20. 
End of transitive's quote

I'd say 15+ when she gets mulch 3 (2250 hp heal). I agree Reg and Beast are stronger than Her, but I would put her above everyone else in her shear ability to win the game at that point (assuming not playing slaughter).

Reply #13 Top

Quoting muusbolla, reply 9

quoting post
Every demigod (except QoT) dominates in the late game.

This is wrong.
End of muusbolla's quote

Why is it wrong? Details please.

If I can get to late game with any DG (specced according to the game at hand, I dominate.  Except QoT.  I still lose with her.

Reply #14 Top

...Wasn't my fault I held the artifact shop for the entire game...

End of quote

 

Yeah that was a mistake on my part.