<Enemy> suicided.

UB can kill himself with his AE

Erubus can drink his own potion

And they didn't take anything from you, you have to earn it first. You earn gold in this game by killing your enemy, or by helping one of your allies do it. You didn't do this.

i've just suicided myself playing UB, but i think it's impossible to time that correctly and deny them xp and gold..it's a matter of luck in my opinion..

Kerzain: You make it sound like he didn't have less than 1 second of life left with my pre-existing spit. I'm not talking about people where it's really close, then they suicided. I'm talking about the kind of time when you've got a clear kill. Like, he goes to backdoor you, and all three of you with stuns and slows port in on top of him. That kind of guaranteed kill.

I guess kerzain is saying that no kill is garunteed until you've received the gold.

I reckon a good case should be made for assisted suicides though

The suicides is lame. Just because the tick of Ooze happens to be that last little damage, it should have no effect on kills. 

No, you shouldnt just get an assist. Ooze should deactivate as soon as the next till will kill you.

Edit: Tick, not till

That's actually a very good idea.

This

Yeah every time I get into a situation when playing Beast where it is very clear I will die, I click on ooze, you never know hehe. But yeah, something should be done, this adds luck to the game.

It already does deactivate if you have 100 health or less but you can force it back on by clicking on it again.

And yeah, you probably shouldn't be able to do that...

i don't think they should change ooze, it's actually nice, like Pudge in Dota if anyone of you ever played that even more, it would be even nicer if a team-mate could kill you when you are really low on health and thus deny the enemy XP and gold

No, this is contrary to the way the game was designed. No such stupidly artificial and hardcore deny mechanisms that has you killing your own to get any benefits.

Suicides should not exist except for someone freshly spawned. When you kill yourself by any means, the kill should be given to the last opponent that damaged you or used any kind of skill on you : let's say you get stuned for no damage and during that time you take no damage from anywhere, if Ooze kills you, the stunner gets the kill.

This.  I've been going ooze a lot and sometimes I get suicides.  Given how much gold is involved for a kill, this is kind of bad design.  The other player can do most of the work, but because of some random luck in auto attack timing, he gets no gold for his trouble.  It should at the very least give assist gold to the guy who was hitting you.  The opponent took a risk in trying to kill you, for him to succeed and then not get any because of bad luck in the timing of his attacks is just stupid.

I wonder if the ooze deactivate thing hasn't been happening to me, or has resulted in me turning it back on when I want it off and getting suicides.  They should just fix it so you can't turn it back on if you're below that health rather than screwing around with the suicided system to give kill/assist gold to the opponents who made it happen.

Ooze isn't the only way to suicide yourself, there are the poison potions too. Worse, they can be used to "team kill" too. And it might not be the only way in the future to suicide yourself (new DG with new skills, new items that use your HP etc...)

Better to change the rules attributing a kill now and be safe for any new way to suicide than to only change the way Ooze works.

If you kill yourself, every person on the other team should get gold.

Problem solved.

And what if it is an accident?  It is rare, but sometimes ooze does suicide you without you trying.  Same thing with poisoned blood, if I'm low health and see a potion and I decide to grab it and it's poisoned, the entire other team shouldn't get gold for it. 

STill get an assist on the kill would solve it. And ppl doing that on purpose are sore losers.

I remember an old game (enemy territory) where people would do it all the time, even have a button bound to it, just so you wouldn't get the points for it. I cannot express in words how lame I think that is, but sadly no one cares, they only want to be first in rank.

The assist shouldnt even be an option. You shouldnt be able to kill yourself that way.

Well, geting gold for "assisting" in suicide makes sense, but i still don't think ooze should be changed, even if it is a luck triggerd factor, it should stay in the game, take it as a unique ability of the UB (altough Erebus's potion cand do that too, so it;s not exactly unique) . As long as ooze works that way it is now, that means dealing damage to yourself, it should also be able to kill you..luck is a factor in other aspects of this game also, take "critical hit" for example..

Yes, but crits have nothing to do with denying an enemy gold. Being able to deny someone a kill just because you have an ability that damages yourself is retarded.

Yes, Erebus can do it, but he has to die and use his potion from the previous death to do it.

There's no such thing as an accident. Wwhy are you so low on health that a poisoned potion will kill you ? Right, that's because the other team did that to you so they deserve the gold for the kill.

No it shouldn't thems the risks. 

What should happen is that the last person to do damage before that tick should get the kill and the others the assists as normal.