Forum Bugs - Listed by browser

There is also a bug with firefox, is that if the title is too long, and if you edit and the edit box will not show up

Also, if the post is too long in firefox, firefox just gies up showing the post and instead will give you black space with the border

Here's a thought....

If you try to run a petrol engine on diesel....it won't.

There's nothing wrong with the engine....

...but also there's nothing wrong with the diesel....;)

jafo the rezonator, using impulse with explorer 8 can not find the modding threads, could this be another bug( incompatability) in the forums?

harpo

Safari issues are a very low priority as it's a very uncommon browser on Windows, and we don't make any Mac software.

What exact circumstances are you seeing slow scrolling under? I use FF 3.0.10 myself and haven't seen any issue with wheel scroling or autoscroll.

Beg pardon for sort of threadjacking, but does anyone know whether forum sign-in requires some third-party site transactions?

I've been trying for ages to figure out why other folks seem to use Opera with no problem, but I can't get a signin to process. Could it be because of something like my blocking content from googleanalytics.com?

That shouldn't have anything to do with logins.

firefox always scrolls slow when many messages or threads are displayed. And it's happening on Mac AND Windows for me.

And your site is the ONLY site that slows down that horribly.

I have several addons installed, among them AdBlock, RePagination (or occasionally AutoPager), Foxmarks. Disabling them has no effect.

The slowdown occurs even after the page completely loaded.

When I scroll down with the Pgdwn key, there's a tiny but noticable lag when FF tries to paint the message entries under XP. Lag is even worse under Mac, but the Mac has a slower CPU anyway. 

I ran some tests and the only way to get fast speed under FF was to disable stylesheets. Of course it looks like shit that way.

And regarding Safari, maybe this gives you a clue: When trying to drag the link-dialog, indead of dragging the window it drags a piece of text which even creates a link.  

Text: "javascript:;".  href the same.

And to add another browser:  Google Chrome doesn't work with quote buttons

Okay I will ask, but don't flame me for it, you don't show IE 8, is there a reason?  (I know we all use the browser that we feel works best for us)

That's a good question Philly. I also use IE8, but suffer none of the problems listed for the other browsers.

I don't agree with that list of bugs...

...there are a lot more bugs than that... ;p

I don't think I've ever noticed extreme slowdown with FF3.0.  Are there any specific pages that cause such slowdowns?  Links would be preferable.

Safari is not high priority, but the next time we do a redesign I'll be sure to do some testing on it.

Chrome is also not high priority, but I'll take a look as to why quotes won't work next time I work on the design-side or javascript.

Good to hear that FF3.5 runs faster with the forums

Bara

Well I hacked mine to load pages faster and make firefox use less ram

From what I understand, the reason the quote buttons don't work in chrome is because chrome doesn't provide information as to what you're doing or what you've highlighted.   So when you highlight text, script running on the web-page can't tell so it treats it as if you had no text highlighted. 

@landisaurus

Chrome doesn't need to tell what is highlighted. Just clicking the button should quote the whole message into the editor, which it doesn't. All info needed is in the ID of the <A> tag.

@GunslingerBara

Every forum page with enough content requiring you to scroll is slow. I think I did provide links in the very first post.

@Philly0381

I didn't list IE8 because it's quite hard to get that to run on a mac, which I use most of the time for surfing.

Besides, given that the Impulse client seems nothing more than a patched up IE i figure it will do just fine.

@killajosh

Given that the Internet Explorer fails miserably with the latest Acid Tests, it's a bad idea to make this thing the benchmark for website quality.

Running FF3.0.10 at the moment from my classroom. Links in your OP load in about 2 seconds and scroll lightning fast. About the same as at home, though I'd expect my slower connection there is the cause for that.

I'd suspect a conflict with an extension.

Opera 9.6 and indeed extremely rapid. Some sites don't render well, mut 99+% of the ones I gone to do. Very happy with it.

I went to those links and they load and scroll as fast as any other site I've been to. I suspect it's a problem on your end, not Firefox (unless it's an extension) or the forums.

Bara

that's likely the problem

Just to give you an example how bad it is:

Opera (can't even login, only lurk):

4375ms

Firefox 3.0.1:

24689ms

And no, it's not my browser or my connection, every other site and forum from the US works just fine. And the 25 seconds rendertime are not even the worst. Sometimes it takes so long to load a page that I thought I'd get a timeout in Firefox.

It would be really nice if you guys could fix the site for Opera, it's one of the fastest and most secure browsers and this is the only commercial site I know that doesn't support it.

I've seen enough from other Opera folks on the boards to be sure that this is a problem we share as end users, not something basic to Opera+SD forums.

My last guess about it was blocked content from third-party tracking sites like googleanalytics.com, but Kryo didn't think anything like that would be involved with forum logins. Earlier, I thought it was something about my old firewall, but I've since swithed to Kaspersky and still can't log in via Opera, which I'd prefer to use.

Any Opera users and/or 'neutrals' in the browser wars out there got some troubleshooting advice for the Colonel & me?

strangely opera works pretty well. the only reason I don't use it regularily are the lack of good plugins and the complete lack of support for the new mac multi-touch gestures.

not being able to login sounds like some security settings or blocked resource files. try deleting the opera settings and/or cache folders (backup sounds nice) and then login.

$&%!@#*!!!

Okay, thanks guys, I'll give that a try. I remember it worked at some point but I can't recall if or what I might have changed. Error console only pops up a bunch of CSS stuff and I'm too lazy to look further into it atm...

Google spy is blocked of course and my firewall shouldn't be a problem. Maybe I'll try a clean installation on my other PC.

I've done a little bit of testing and I'm finding that it's the images that cause FF to be slow for me.  Using firebug, there's about 1Mb of data per page, mostly images  Most of the images are in the 50Kb range and there are lots of them (even smilies and small graphics), and the background image at the top is 221Kb, and the repeating background is pretty big as well.

Completely disabling images via the firefox webdeveloper extension makes the page scroll fast (normal).  I would suggest doing some overhaul of the graphics, there's no reason a smilie needs to be 60Kb

Wanted to add one more metric.  According to Firebug's Net tracking (tracking all requests made by a page), this page uses 8Mb of content, all of which was cached, but I had to fetch it at some point in time.  But that also means that the browser has to render 8Mb of things.

There are 173 image loaded on this page (before posting this post), at a total of 7Mb of images, roughly 41.5Kb/image average.

Yes, I also ran the net tracking stuff, along with the YSlow tools, and found the images to be quite heavy.  I'll see about finding a better format for handling images, possibly doing sprites for everything with the exception of smilies (since those are handled by TinyMCE, the 3rd party tool we use as a WYSIWYG editor).  I'll keep these in mind and find ways to decrease the overall size of images, especially for the Demigod and Elemental forums.

Bara