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TB Fireball needs Splash dmg!

May 28, 2009 6:18:46 AM from Demigod ForumsDemigod Forums

Its not like it would matter much against other DG, but this would make it somewhat more viable for creep farming from range, which TB needs since he is so squishy. Also, since its FireBALL and not FireBOLT, it is usually standard for all Fireballs in all games to have splash dmg except here? The single hitting version is usually called FireBOLT. So either give it Splash DMG (in a small radius, maybe as small as angelic fury radius?) OR rename it to FireBOLT. Opinions?

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Reply #1 May 28, 2009 6:21:00 AM
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Yeah man, TB is really severely lacking in AoE options. Oh wait ...

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Reply #2 May 28, 2009 6:22:13 AM
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.................

 

You've got firenova for creep farming, its extremely effective.  For giants you have circle of fire to combine with fire nova.

 

Splash dmg on fireball would make it overpowered.  Fire tb is already pretty good and balanced.

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Reply #3 May 28, 2009 6:25:00 AM
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TB can use rain of ice to farm from a distance. Or he can just set up a circle of fire.

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Reply #4 May 28, 2009 6:34:07 AM
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Yeah man, TB is really severely lacking in AoE options. Oh wait ...

 

Notice what i wrote "this would make it somewhat more viable for creep farming from RANGE".

Since he is extremely squishy, and all his other aoes in fire mode are centered around him, he need to get in close and personal to use them. Fireball is is only ranged dmg spell in fire mode. Also its called Fire BALL not BOLT!

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Reply #5 May 28, 2009 6:43:12 AM
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Quoting gloeglm,
reply 1
Yeah man, TB is really severely lacking in AoE options. Oh wait ...

'nuff said.

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Reply #6 May 28, 2009 6:46:06 AM
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Quoting NeoVain,
reply 4
Yeah man, TB is really severely lacking in AoE options. Oh wait ...

Notice what i wrote "this would make it somewhat more viable for creep farming from RANGE".

Since he is extremely squishy, and all his other aoes in fire mode are centered around him, he need to get in close and personal to use them. Fireball is is only ranged dmg spell in fire mode. Also its called Fire BALL not BOLT!

 

If you got killed by creeps you seriously need to play some sp to learn to play.

Even giants don't have great damage output at all.

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Reply #7 May 28, 2009 6:48:47 AM
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Quoting NeoVain,
reply 4

Yeah man, TB is really severely lacking in AoE options. Oh wait ...
 

Notice what i wrote "this would make it somewhat more viable for creep farming from RANGE".

Since he is extremely squishy, and all his other aoes in fire mode are centered around him, he need to get in close and personal to use them. Fireball is is only ranged dmg spell in fire mode. Also its called Fire BALL not BOLT!

Alright, fine, I'll say a little more...

First, Circle of Fire is ranged in a sense, and furthermore it can be cast and left to burn the creeps whilst TB goes fishing or takes guitar lessons, doesnt really matter.

Second, why do you need range to farm creeps? They're never that scary, and TB is best of anyone at annihilating them, in either mode. He's squishy, sure, but c'mon... Creeps?

Third, who cares what it's called...? I could make an equally strong case that they rename it the Confetti Missile on the grounds that it would be amusing.

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Reply #8 May 28, 2009 6:55:51 AM
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why not give his spells lifeleech as well since he is squishy.  Maybe add a mana shield too that drains mana instead of health at a rate of .5 mana per 1pt dmg?  Actually why not give him a spell at level 15 that kills everything on the map including the enemy citadel, as a reward for having to toil through the game as a poor squishy tb who doesn't even have lightning bolts or splash dmg fireballs that shoot from his arse.

 

 

FREEEEDOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!

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Reply #9 May 28, 2009 7:13:45 AM
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Besides, if you are complaining about TB not being able to creep from range, try playing Sedna, and see how many ranged options you have there.

Or maybe just specc something else than "I am too stupid to change form"-builds.

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Reply #10 May 28, 2009 7:40:33 AM
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and last but not least:

Fire Nova level 1 instantly kills all small creeps.

 

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Reply #11 May 28, 2009 10:32:29 AM
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so you are saying that if a DG already has splash dmg skills, he shouldnt have more? By that logic, why do regulus mines have splash dmg? he already have mark of the betrayer and angelic fury FFS! or ANY other dg with several splash dmg skills/attack. Like QoT who has splash dmg on normal attack, plus 2 aoes. ?

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Reply #12 May 28, 2009 11:23:40 AM
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So, I don't follow... why does the DG who currently has the easiest time with creep farming (ranged or otherwise) 'need' fireball to deal splash damage?  Are Fire Nova, Fire Circle, and Rain of Ice not doing the job for some reason because they all seem to work exceptionally well for me.  

If this is another balance satire thread, then forgive my ignorance.  Didn't recognize the name.   

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Reply #13 May 28, 2009 11:24:13 AM
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almost as big as a joke as my friend...

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Reply #14 May 28, 2009 11:34:19 AM
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I agree everyone who is nailing the OP for "whining", that TB is fine as he is, and doesn't NEED more splash... But

 

Wouldn't it be COOLER if it had a small radius of splash damage that did like 100-200 damage (kind of like rook's hammer). Nothing to break the game, but just a nice effect.

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Reply #15 May 28, 2009 11:37:21 AM
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I think it'd be cool if Sedna did an extra 200 in splash damage with every Pounce, too but if it ain't broke...

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Reply #16 May 28, 2009 11:39:55 AM
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wayyyy too much aoe for one char...

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Reply #17 May 28, 2009 11:47:26 AM
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TB is fine.

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Reply #18 May 28, 2009 11:47:41 AM
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Use Ice Rain.

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Reply #19 May 28, 2009 11:49:04 AM
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I think it would be good if UB flips the enemy a finger every time it casts spit. I think this is an important feature to add and I demand it.

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Reply #20 May 28, 2009 12:06:24 PM
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Same with Rook dropping the hammer.  Or rolling his rock (he could roll the rock and flip you off in one smooth motion)

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Reply #21 May 28, 2009 12:06:34 PM
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As long as the finger deals an inconsequential 200 AOE damage, I'm all for it.

I'm surprised that GPG left out this necessary feature.

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Reply #22 May 28, 2009 12:29:20 PM
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If Fireball did enough splash to kill creeps, it would be too imba. Fireball is cheep as hell mana wise, I'd never use Rain of Ice again if I could just use fireball.

Andi f you increase the mana cost of Fireball, it'd really hurt it's usefulness.

I vote: No Splash

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Reply #23 May 28, 2009 12:44:41 PM
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To the OP:

No

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Reply #24 May 28, 2009 12:47:16 PM
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Third, who cares what it's called...? I could make an equally strong case that they rename it the Confetti Missile on the grounds that it would be amusing.

What an interesting idea. We the people demand THIS.

 

Sorry for DP

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Reply #25 May 28, 2009 1:07:49 PM
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I agree that the Rook should flip people the finger while Rook Rolling them.

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