What's So Great?

I've been looking at this game, gameplay mechanics, videos, etc. and it looks neat, but it seems to be getting more praise than I'd expect.

The game as an RTS looks infinitely inferior to Warcraft III, and a for the RPG elements, well it just doesn't seem to be great by RPG standards, either. I realize it's supposed to be a combination, but even for a combination, it looks very limited. From what I can tell, there are only a few ways to upgrade your DG, only like 6 or so maps, and the game play seems like the computer does most of the work for you.

What exactly is it about this game that everyone love so much?

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I've been looking at this game, gameplay mechanics, videos, etc. and it looks neat, but it seems to be getting more praise than I'd expect.

The game as an RTS looks infinitely inferior to Warcraft III, and a for the RPG elements, well it just doesn't seem to be great by RPG standards, either. I realize it's supposed to be a combination, but even for a combination, it looks very limited. From what I can tell, there are only a few ways to upgrade your DG, only like 6 or so maps, and the game play seems like the computer does most of the work for you.

What exactly is it about this game that everyone love so much?

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Instead of being an ass and forum troll why don't you check the game out?

Reply #2 Top

its not an RTS. its an action-strategy game with minor roleplayer elements (insofar as you level up and buy items). 

 

its basically the same type of game as the Defense of the Ancients mod for Warcraft 3. 

 

if you think of it like a traditional RTS game you won't get it at all. it has more in common with Team Fortress 2 than with Warcraft 3. its a team based multiplayer action game. the format of this game is "hero arena" as opposed to "class based FPS". the depth is in the multiplayer. its not an RTS game like what you're thinking of. don't judge it on that scale. its not an RPG of any kind. don't judge it on that scale. its a team based action-strategy game. judge it on THAT scale. 

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clearly you haven't played or you simply don't like DOTA from warcraft 3 or any of the other similar types of custom games from War3. This game is a standalone clone of one of those custom game types, similar in many respects and different in others. There's a huge following of DOTA and DOTA-esque games which is why this is so fun, go play DOTA or a DOTA clone and find out what the rage is about.

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Your posts strongly indicates that you're new to this type of gameplay. You're expecting things from the game that inherently isn't supposed to be there, and missing out on things that you do not understand are there. You've taken a positive step though, in asking about it on the forums.

Since there's no demo yet (it won't be out for a while), I can't ask you to try it out for yourself. The next best things is to let you read up on the basics here:

http://forums.demigodthegame.com/332105

If you are familiar with Blizzard's Diablo, the game plays out like an arena match between two groups of Diablo heroes. The thrill of the game is how to build your Demigod to better perform in the ever changing dynamics of the match up, and how to coordinate with your own team to out play the opponent team.

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Quoting firemyth, reply 3
clearly you haven't played or you simply don't like DOTA from warcraft 3 or any of the other similar types of custom games from War3. This game is a standalone clone of one of those custom game types, similar in many respects and different in others. There's a huge following of DOTA and DOTA-esque games which is why this is so fun, go play DOTA or a DOTA clone and find out what the rage is about.
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Demigod is clearly not a DotA clone. Same genre, with too many differences to be called a clone. It's like calling Ground Control a Command & Conquer clone.

Reply #6 Top

Uhhhh... NOTHING is great about it.

 

It is Junk Junk Junk. OOOOOHHH my God it is Junk.

 

DemiGod?  More like RipOffGod.

Don't waste your money. I already wasted mine, and feel like an idiot for it.

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It's hard to describe, but the game is a lot more entertaining than you would expect. Each Demigod has several strategies (whether there are limited skills or not), and a player must learn to adapt his style to better defeat his opponents. If you enjoy PvP in MMO's or Diablo II, you might find what you're looking for here. It's just mixed in with some RTS elements.

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I dont think you understand anything about how it works. Your character restarts at level 1 every game, its not persistant. Its a completely new genre (well first "real" game anyways), and you cant expect it to be warcraft or fallout, its neither, its barely even related. I believe a demo should be out in a week or two so you could just wait for that.

Reply #9 Top

Instant fun.

 

There is no single way to be successful, there are a myriad of ways you can obtain success. 

 

The typical RTS click on me for a cutesy Quip ...

 

Christopher Lee's voice telling you you are GODLIKE and SMITER!

 

To new just a few.

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its not supposed to compete against warcraft 3 as a strategy game, its supposed to compete with warcraft 3 - defence of the ancients, as a strategy rpg game.

 

8 maps in demigod > 1 war3 dota map

and graphically, on a good computer, demigod looks better than warcraft 3 in that its full 3d, whereas war3 is only partial 3d if you know what i mean. like in demigod, you can actually look around the map, and pay attention to all the little details they put in.

 

but thats where the good sides end. demigod is still a little buggy (i havent really had any problems), only has 8 demigods compared to 93 heroes in dota, and very basic stats mechanisms compared to dota (hp/mana regen vs dota's combo items for aoe damage, bash, stun, sheep stick, etc.

 

basically, its like a much needed variation from war 3 dota. however, if all you play is regular warcraft, then this game might not be for you.

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Quoting NotHappee, reply 6
Uhhhh... NOTHING is great about it.

 

It is Junk Junk Junk. OOOOOHHH my God it is Junk.

 

DemiGod?  More like RipOffGod.

Don't waste your money. I already wasted mine, and feel like an idiot for it.
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You seems to have gotten off the wrong side of bed today. I'm sorry you had such a poor experience with the game, but don't spoil it for those who are willing to give it a chance.

Reply #12 Top

The great things: Animations, Graphics, Sound effects, Balance, Variation in skillsets on demigods, Satisfaction from winning/beating other players/gettings kills etc, and most of all, the developers CARE, they work overtime to fix the bugs.

 

The BAD things: Netcode, Matchmaking service, Ladder system(pantheon) Logic, Gameplay bugs(not many, but those that exist are really inexcusable), and even though the developers care, they don´t seem to have much of a clue how to fix things...

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It's about the tactical and strategic options open to you - there are significant pros and cons to every customization decision you make, even if its just a matter of opportunity costs.

The computer doesn't play for you - trust me, there is plenty enough to do managing your demigod.   The AI troops provide the backdrop - in the start they are just mobile packets of XP, but as the game goes on they become more and more powerful until a single wave of grunts can overrun your defenses if left unopposed.

of course, trying to upgrade your army too early can be worse than futile because you will just feed your enemies more experience and they will outlevel you.

on the other hand, if they are preoccupied with killing your units than that gives you the opportunity to destroy or sneak past their defenses and take control of their reinforcement portals. 

 

 

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Maybe it's just me but I don't really consider DG to be an RTS.

It's more like a mixture of Quake3Arena with WoW-PvP than an RTS like Warcraft3 or Starcraft.

Sure there's a strategic element to it, however the arena type maps, the game modes and fast paced action don't feel like RTS to me.

Don't get me wrong, i love RTS! But I'm inclined to call it a Action-Strategy game (with the focus on "action").

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Well, I was not going to get DG; got it as a birthday gift.  So I had simular thoughts to you when I saw pictures and previews of the game.  I like deep turnbased strategy, and "some" RTS; I like RPG too.  This game has it all, in medium doses.  The fun of the game IS in it's simplicity.  Ya, that surprised me too.

All you have to do is control your one Demigod.  Big deal, right?  Until you see all the combinations of abilities each DG can use; multiplied by 8 demigods; multiplied by up to 10 different demigods dueling each other; combined with a mydrid of magic items, scolls, potions and favor items; multiplied by how you handle minions, reinforcements, citidel upgrades and flag control.  It all adds up.

If you get a game going, with nice people (notice I said "If" you get a game going, and DID'NT say "good players", I said "nice people"), it's just a very fun romp, with as much or little thinking/strategy as you want to put into the game.

Reply #16 Top

Play the game and you will know ;)

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....um what happened to all the posts in this topic?

 edit - oh great, i hit refresh five times and nothing shows up until i make a post.

Reply #18 Top

Demigod is as much an RTS as Diablo is. The only RTS mechanics is if you play a general demigod (4 of the 8), you will have minions to spawn, and that you can upgrade your citadel to get upgrades. You wont have to construct a vehicle factory or a vespene gas extractor, and you wont be building 12 mortar teams to get your enemy base down

In all honesty, Demigod is an MORPGRTSPvP game. The roleplaying aspect is that you can build your demigod in different ways - not that you have someone to talk to which will change to course of the game.

I think if i should give you a clear idea of what kind of game Demigod is, then it is counter strike compared to Half Life. CS is a small game that offers multiplayer fights, and thats what we have in Demigod. There is no campaign where you fight your way through missions, its simply an arena type game. Each game starts off at level 1 again, and through time, trial and error, you hone your skills, work better together with other people you play with, and so forth.

Its not a full feature game. Thats why its only 40$. It is, however, quite fun to play, and if you find that you dont like this after you buy it, i believe that Stardock still offers a complete refund :)

Reply #19 Top

it is not really a rpg or a rts, so comparing Demigod to company of heroes or baldur's gate is not really relevant.

There will be a demo, just try the game and you will see why it has fans.

edit: the forum has some problems today, when i typed my message, there was no answer.

Reply #20 Top

You have to play it to really understand.

If you have Warcraft 3, try the DotA ALL-STARS map, that's the closest thing to DG out there.

Reply #21 Top

What I like about it is that it is a great tactical game. You do not need to be micro heavy with 10 clicks per second, instead the game is more about controlling the map, knowing your chosen character and working with your team.

Compared to traditional RTS it is a little more relaxing, in that you are not trying to get the exact build order up .5 sec ahead of your opponent. It allows for a lot of choice.

Also even with 8 DGs there is no overpowering build, some builds are better than others, but they can all mostly have their counters.

Timing of interrupts and interesting use of items/abilities adds a lot of depth. Also, if you can 4v4 or 5v5 working then the game goes to a whole new level, the fights can be manic with lots going on.

I would definately give the game an 8, a 9 if they can ever sort out the connection issues and lobby. On bad days this game is only worth a 7, it can be more frustrating than the worth.... waiting for 30mins to get a game up and running that lags out is just not acceptable.