erebus's dmg output

"minions dont really add that much dmg" is a false statement. 

You realize that at max level, bite is not only a slow and armor reducer, but heals you for 770 while dealing 770 to the enemy? That's a difference of 1540 damage, which, quite frankly, is friggin huge. Minions do tons of damage, and even more after the target has been bitten. His swarm is not meant to be a nuke, but a chase/escape option. Quite frankly, I've had no trouble with shieldwhores whatsoever. Even if I fail to kill them, they don't kill me.

Erebus's minions do shit dmg w hile attacking a moving target, fix that and erebus should be ok.

Given how bad all of gpg's games are with pathfinding.. i doubt it will ever happen.

Yeah, Tass is right there. That's why I like charm. Use it as soon as she starts trying to run.

Erb's bite also reduces armor. Like most characters, most his dps comes from just atacking, so bite and start attacking!

Truth.

Luckily if the enemy is forced into running, I doubt I have a problem with that.

ok u fight a minion  build that is spaming shield

with shambles and priest and siege archers  then tell me u can ge past her shield and  make her get out the lane  so u can  get exp 

qot will just slowly push u back and take out your towers

ere vs qot is useless    slowing down and anying dmg would only help if u had a full minion build  but then u would have trouble  geting the kill because a full minion build u wouldn't be able to get bat swarm as well as bite and the nesicary upgrade in 10 lvls

You're right si1foo.  QoT should be invincible against erebus. 

Items can add quite a bit of damage, especially minion damage for generals.

they can but she is still invincible to ere which is pointless

no character should be invincible to another

Great.

And clearly QoT is not invincible against Erebus.

So asking why she isn't invincible is pointless.  If she were, you're probably getting nerf. 

QoT has limited AoE damage so minions should work wonders.

qot is invincible againist a erebus

and an eb still is the best dg. i mean what is their counter?  queen will not kill an eb consistantly.

whats a couter swarm>bite>auto attack>bite>aut attack>kills the dg>mist>swarm out

there is none.

just as

oak >pest>auto attack>surge>pest>auto attack>shield>HoL>auto attck>they kill the dg>run away

ub >spit>auto attack>auto attack>grasp>spit>auto attack> kills dg>runs away

i mean learn to play the game i can go on about almost every dg. every dg has a skill set that makes you think they are op when they are not.

queen rarely gets kills as much as any other dg. sure the shield is a pain till mid game so is spit but you just need to learn how to counter them.

We probably need better items for decimating an opponents mana.  We have one crappy wand that doesn't do much and one ability (silence) for one demigod.  We probably should have more powerful versions so classes can defeat classes like qot and sedna by taking out their defensive abilities by removing their mana pools so they aren't quite so stalwart.

One great thing about bite though is that even if a shield is up you still get the hp. 

Stop trying to win 1v1 and play as a team

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swarm bite    bite  mist  swarm

750  500 500  125 per second    750

lets see that is 2400 plus 125X how the amount of time he is in mist so  he would have had to get atleast  crown  too bboost mana

550 500 500 that is 1550 mana  and  4250 gold  not mentioning other items

650 800 650   2100 mana

so ere uses the most mana  to kill and  with that  build has proberly no chance  if he got stunned

Buff erebus!

Omg "erebus cant win QoT" dude, how many DG's can, there is only 1 demigod which can kill QoT on 1v1. So quit whining about "erebus cant". its not meat te be dealt on 1v1.

You are only relying on special abilities?  The bite reduces armor which makes your autoattack value go way up.  Your stun will affect her minions for a long time, plus your mist, while not much effect against QoT, will put the hurt on her minions.  Couple that with swarm and you should be able to take down her minions.  If she is spending all her time summoning minions and shields, then she has no mana for her special attacks. I notice, though, that you never mention QoT killing Ere - that is because it is almost impossible with all the tools that Erebus has.  In trouble, swarm out.  Timers down, mist.  Low health, bite.

What's next, complaining about Ere v. tower rooks?

Erebus is great against tower rooks...

OOPS!!  I mean, erebus needs a buff against tower rooks.

no ere can get rook a rook build but seeing as all good qot builds use shield  u can't be  her at all

i anit a iddiot  dumbass   ere can kill all demigods in atleast one build but  qots sheild is so powerful compared to eres  weakass attacks

too many iddiots are posting here  u try fighting 1v1 with ere  againist a qot u will know what i mean

there is a counter for all demis to counter another but there is no counter for ere to get qot 

regs mines get qot well  rooks towers own her  oaks pent and surge own her ubs  spit  and  grasp own her  all of tbs attack spells pretty much own her  sednas pounce hurts her bad  qot owns qot with ground spikes and the line one

but ere has no combo or skill that can take down her sheild and keep her from getting another and doing a bit off dmg

loads off people bitched about ere and got him nerfed  before it was even a real problem

I think you forgot to take into account what happens when you right click on the enemy hero.

ok so how muc auto dmg  will a ere  do between the around 7 secs of cooldown i doubt it will be enough to take down her sheild before hers  recharges

Well you do more than 200 per hit with armor, and I'm not sure if shield absorb is armor reduced, so yeah, you'll break the shield just about with auto attack damage alone.