Rate of Fire

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If I see an attack rate of 0.7, does that mean it takes 0.7 seconds to complete an attack, or that 0.7 attacks are completed each second?

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Reply #1 from Demigod Forums Top

.7 seconds to complete an attack.

Reply #2 from Demigod Forums Top

If I see an attack rate of 0.7, does that mean it takes 0.7 seconds to complete an attack, or that 0.7 attacks are completed each second?
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lol, its the same thing isnt it :S ?

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Reply #3 from Demigod Forums Top

No. That's not the same.

 

an attack each .7 second means that in 7 seconds, you have 10 attacks.

 

.7 attack each second means that in 10 seconds, you have 7 attacks.

 

So, 10 attacks in 7 seconds is much better than 7 attacks in 10 seconds.

Reply #4 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting StAcK3D_ActR, reply 2

If I see an attack rate of 0.7, does that mean it takes 0.7 seconds to complete an attack, or that 0.7 attacks are completed each second?

lol, its the same thing isnt it ?
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lol, you crack me up

Reply #5 from Demigod Forums Top

lol, you crack me up
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i fail :(

Reply #6 from Demigod Forums Top

attacks are instant. the time listed on the character sheet is the interval between attacks. it has a floor of 0.5, btw, so there's a point beyond which no improvement can be gained. 

Reply #7 from Demigod Forums Top

attacks are instant. the time listed on the character sheet is the interval between attacks. it has a floor of 0.5, btw, so there's a point beyond which no improvement can be gained.
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Reply #8 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting lukkas_ROCKUS, reply 7

attacks are instant. the time listed on the character sheet is the interval between attacks. it has a floor of 0.5, btw, so there's a point beyond which no improvement can be gained.
My life coach says that there is *always* room to improve.
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Your Life Coach sucks at playing Demigod ;P

Reply #9 from Demigod Forums Top

What is being described here is not attack rate but attack time.

Rate is units per unit time: seconds-1

Time is, well, units time: seconds

 

The unit of the value on the character sheet in demigod is time. 0.7 of what? Seconds. It's 0.7 seconds for each attack, so it's attack time, not attack rate.

Really, it would be better if the character sheet did show attack rate. It has a very simple relationship to dps, attack damage and speed modifiers. You might have noticed that: what is speed? It's an x per unit time again. How fast is something is a rate. Easy mathematical relation, easy understanding. 10% more attack speed is a 10% higher attack rate. For attack time it's the inverse of 10% (~91%) of your old attack time.

There are many more examples. Rate should be what is shown on demigod's character panel.

(covering my ass here: Rate is not just with regard to time. It can be a ratio between any kind of value)

Reply #10 from Demigod Forums Top

So, if the attack speed floor is 0.5, if you have a base rate of 0.7, then

Maximum effective increase in attack speed = (100% - 0.7/0.5) = 40%.

Reply #11 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting Shadow_Avenger, reply 10
So, if the attack speed floor is 0.5, if you have a base rate of 0.7, then

Maximum effective increase in attack speed = (100% - 0.7/0.5) = 40%.
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If the base attack speed was 0.7, yes.

 

Looking at charts, demigods start at around 0.7 rate of fire, making attack speed on the in-game character sheet about 1.43 (1/0.7). At 20 the attack speed is about 1 though, so about the most you can get out of attack speed is a 100% increase.

Keep in mind the character panel's +% attack speed is inaccurate. It doesn't correctly compound your per-level increase with what you get from items, etc. (it understates items the more your level increases, but it's only that display)