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Blood of the Fallen too cheap?

June 16, 2009 12:27:04 PM from Demigod ForumsDemigod Forums

Figure I would ask here since this is where most people check.

The situation: You have come home from work, and start a Pantheon game at 9pm. In your second match, you come across 2 guys who have blood of the fallen and you have nothing?

You are pwn? 

I am thinking if Blood of the Fallen was worth more, say around 1000 favor, you could at least have a chance at having something like swift anklet while you work your way up to Blood of the Fallen on Day 1 of a new Pantheon?

Thoughts?

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Reply #1 June 16, 2009 12:29:55 PM
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It should seriously be worth about 3000 favor points.

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Reply #2 June 16, 2009 12:33:53 PM
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Uh, pretty much everybody who's been playing for more than a few days has blood of the fallen. It really doesn't take that long to get it.

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Reply #3 June 16, 2009 2:21:15 PM
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Favor items are one thing I don't understand and don't like about DG. Why in the world should anyone be handicapped in their first few games? All items should be immedeately, completely, and equally available to everyone. 

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Reply #4 June 16, 2009 2:31:01 PM
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Quoting SoFFacet,
reply 3
Favor items are one thing I don't understand and don't like about DG. Why in the world should anyone be handicapped in their first few games? All items should be immedeately, completely, and equally available to everyone. 

It literally only takes a few games to get most any favor item. You are slightly handicapped untill then. I think the point is not to overwhelm new players. It is like how weapons slowly unlock in COD4. If you were given all the favor items, you might not really have time to mature with some of them. This way, you buy one and you kinda have to use it for a while before you get another.

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Reply #5 June 16, 2009 2:45:23 PM
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if it was worth more favor, that would be even worse because it would be available to a smaller population of players, and the ones who can afford it can faceroll to victory ^^

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Reply #6 June 16, 2009 3:44:01 PM
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to be perfectly honest, every favor item may as well have a cost of zero. favor resets aren't frequent enough for it to be a big deal. i mean hell, you can even get a Heaven's Wrath in a day or two if you play enough. Pantheon seasons (when the friggin thing works anyway) last like 2 weeks on average. 

 

none of the favor items are adequately balanced on cost. because the cost is effectively zero for all of them. the only meaningful cost they have is the opportunity cost. you can't change your favor item once you pick it. 

 

the early game advantage provided by Blood of the Fallen is so overwhelming that its hard to justify taking anything else for alot of builds of alot of DGs. you have to have some sort of very specific plan to justify taking a different favor item. 

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Reply #7 June 16, 2009 3:56:17 PM
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I guess the point I am trying to make.

Yes, everyone will have Blood of the Fallen after Day 1 but...
Would it be better if you didn't have Blood of the Fallen because you started Day 1 later in the evening you could have, for example, Swift Anklet before most other people earn Blood of the Fallen?  There might be a problem when people are arguing about the most expensive favor items being less useful then Blood of the Fallen, a moderate favor item.

For certain having no favor item at all vs Blood of the Fallen is worse then earning Blood of the Fallen on Day 2 and buying something semi-useful in the meantime (like swiftanklet so you can at least run away from every DG you encounter ).

Either that or start new Pantheons on Saturday.

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Reply #8 June 17, 2009 1:12:24 AM
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The Charm of Life is Good Enough to compete. The 400 HP difference isn't that much, it has the same HP regeneration, and the death penalty boost can come in handy for new players

 The problem with Blood of the Fallen is that its effectiveness drops off dramatically later on. The Blade of the Serpent, Cape of Plentiful Mana, Staff of Renewal, and many other popular items are just as effective (if not more so) in the late game as in the early game. +5 HP regen ceases to make a difference after a while, and the meta effects from other items far outshine what you can get from +800 hp. 

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Reply #9 June 17, 2009 9:49:16 AM
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to be honest i started playing as sedna, figured that swift anklet would be my best bet, got that and while using her and it have saved enough for most of the other useful items. Favor items is just a weird system, i mean once you've saved enough for the items you need whats the point? Why do we have to save in the first place?

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Reply #10 June 17, 2009 12:41:29 PM
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Quoting Toonook,
reply 9
to be honest i started playing as sedna, figured that swift anklet would be my best bet, got that and while using her and it have saved enough for most of the other useful items. Favor items is just a weird system, i mean once you've saved enough for the items you need whats the point? Why do we have to save in the first place?

 

Well, for the same reason there's awards and accomplishments in most games these days: they give people small goals to work towards and makes them feel special when they achieve them. I know I sure am proud of my ability to purchase blood of the fallen!

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Reply #11 June 17, 2009 3:54:20 PM
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Quoting Zanobi,
reply 10


Well, for the same reason there's awards and accomplishments in most games these days: they give people small goals to work towards and makes them feel special when they achieve them. I know I sure am proud of my ability to purchase blood of the fallen!

SARCASM ALERT!  SARCASM ALERT!  SARCASM ALERT!

 

The sad part is that's probably the reason they added it in :/.

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Reply #12 June 18, 2009 6:05:29 PM
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Quoting SoFFacet,
reply 3
Favor items are one thing I don't understand and don't like about DG. Why in the world should anyone be handicapped in their first few games? All items should be immedeately, completely, and equally available to everyone. 

 

ur avatar makes me mad, and ur stupid, stay out of the forums or ill get mad and call you stupid ...AGAIN!!

 

youve

           been

                   warned

 

-Foreshadowed 

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