Winning half the time doesn't make something overpowered.  Far from it

Agreed. A 50% victory rate against regulus is exactly average. And if you think it's just because you're challenging bad players...maybe you're not as good as you thought? [e digicons]:X[/e] I have no more trouble with Reguli than any other Demi, tbh (except TB, who's usually a pushover)

Oh come on you little attention wh*re: There already is a thread about regulus being OP due to his mines, you really could have just posted your piece there.

As for what you said: its plain wrong. You might not be the biggest noob ever, but you are clearly lacking perspective. You talk about skill, half of which i never even use, as the games never get that far..

I rarely have a problem with other reguluses, but quite frankly, im not running arund with less than 3k HP either. If you ignore HP mid/late game, then yea.. auto attack, mines and even snipe can be deadly.. then again, any decent player will have 4-6k HP around level 10, so even if you eat all 6 mines you will survive with more than enough to endure even a snipe.

Nah.. your analysis completely ignores the fact, that skills cost skill points and that you cant have everything of what you described there.

Mine, snipe, motb, miam.. thats 8 points until level10 just from mines and snipe alone, add tracking device at lvl5, and you already used 9 points out of 10. Now the remaining point could go to either motb, or miam, or range, or fury, ONE LEVEL OF ONE SKILL FROM THOSE FOUR.

Sure, past level 10, you get extra points with which to make your build more colorful, but even then.. we are talking about 11 total points you will have at level 20.. and if you are a decent player with decent teammates playing against decent opponents, most games will be decided well before you hit lvl20. I usually finish my games between levels 12 and 15.

So what exactly are you talking about when you say, that having all those skills on one character is OP? Noone will have all those skills.. maybe at or near level 20, but you need a very balanced set of players to get there and then the game will be decided by team tactics and not individual demigods.

@RainFall2112:
"No regulus is pretty OP right now. I mean Double regulus is fairly retarded. I'd like to see the cooldown on snipe pushed to like 30 seconds or so."

Huhh? double anything is fairly retarded.. double rook - 16 towers. double torchbearer - 5-6000 HP burst damage from abilities. double regulus - 12 mines and/or 2 snipes. double sedna - twice the heal.. double QoT - permashielding. double UB - 2000DPS. (before item procs)

Really the only demigods i dont find OP in multiples are the erebus and oak. In fact i do believe those are a tad weak compared to the others. Then we didnt even talk about the non double combos that can be seen as OP: sedna + QoT?

So yea.. lets nerf regulus, because two of them can dominate a game.

You're wrong about the mana. Start up a game, drop a few mines, snipe a couple of times, and then see how much mana you have left.

What you're missing is that Regulus is fast enough to move back, tap HoL, get his mana back, and be right back in the fight a moment later. The HoL nerf will be rough on mine/snipe spam.

I thni kthat ability with 3% chance for 0.4 secs stund is gay atm and should be buffed

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@RainFall2112:
"No regulus is pretty OP right now. I mean Double regulus is fairly retarded. I'd like to see the cooldown on snipe pushed to like 30 seconds or so."

Huhh? double anything is fairly retarded.. double rook - 16 towers. double torchbearer - 5-6000 HP burst damage from abilities. double regulus - 12 mines and/or 2 snipes. double sedna - twice the heal.. double QoT - permashielding. double UB - 2000DPS. (before item procs)

Really the only demigods i dont find OP in multiples are the erebus and oak. In fact i do believe those are a tad weak compared to the others. Then we didnt even talk about the non double combos that can be seen as OP: sedna + QoT?

So yea.. lets nerf regulus, because two of them can dominate a game.[/quote]

Another poster whose brain is broken.  Double Rook isnt OP except on certain maps that have a single choke point. They are just too slow and counterable and have no way to put pressure on you. The same goes with double sedna or Double Qot. Sure you cant kill them but they can never kill you so you can sacrifice HP for +dmg and get towers down fast with attk speed, dmg and crit. 

Double reg is retarded.  The amount of pressure and unlimited mana(with favor items) means they can wear you down far too quickly.  They can do 2000+ dmg per cooldown and it doesnt regen that fast.  They can force you to constantly run back to the base.

I was going to come in and beat the shit out of these arguments but I say RainFall2112 did a pretty good job himself although there are a few things I would like to adress:

csebal

Nah.. your analysis completely ignores the fact, that skills cost skill points and that you cant have everything of what you described there.

I would have to disgree because I personally, many times have had all those debuffs stacked on me at one time during midgame, (10 - 15). Dont tell he cant have all those things.

Raknor

Wrong. TB can using either Rain of Ice or Fireball.

Generals can use their minions.

The difference is that those things cost mana. Even if QoT uses her bramble sheild it still costs mana. It doesnt cost Regulus a damn thing to down towers, not health, not mana, not anything.

Also one thing I'd like to note that isnt totally a reason Reg is OP but is just a tad bit annoying. In any non-Reg game you can creep and attack demis, run away and stock up at your base at your leisure. In a Reg game, youre basically not allowed to be a 50% health or lower even inside your own base contemplating items to buy or base upgrades or maybe even restoring your damn health because you'll just get your damn face sniped off. So many people including myself have died at the health crystal. Just a minor rant but come on, thats just a little nervracking isnt it? Its like a stalker or slasher fic murderer; you never when youre gunna get sniped. Every confrontation you engage in is basically against two people. The person youre fighting and Reg's pwnbullet.

That is all.

Just a word. Things look promising in 1.1. The mines seem easier to avoid and mana regen overall seems better. Might be my imagination but theres always hope.

how bout we don't nerf reg and say we did?

i got an idea, lets give his angel mode a speed boost, genious right?

There is only one thing that I think is OP about Regulus. It's their mines:

- They're doing lot of damages, over quite a vast area, and they're slowing you down. Indeed it's easy to avoid them with the 50g item, or with some thinking, but you CAN'T avoid them if you are fighting in a melee 3v3 (for example). If a Regulus drops its mines in this kind of melee, you can be SURE that his side will win. I do not even talk of me playing a carrier DG and therefore, it's killing all my mobs (but it has an advantage as I can set off the mines with a single mob). Mines in 1v1 are not that dangerous, but in team they're really OPed in my opinion (with a melee DG with you).

- They are uber area effect weapon. It can kill a full wave of creeps (or player controlled mobs) in a single shot. Who said that Regulus doesn't play well against creeps ?

- They can kill towers, if ennemy creeps are passing near the "targeted" tower. Launch the mines, wait and go another way, and boom: no more tower (OK Regulus don't even need that as they can hit the tower with auto-attack without being hit).

As I am not used to whine without proposing a solution, here it is: set a count down timer to the mines in order that they can be triggered off only let's say 3 or 5 seconds after being launched (currently it's only maybe one second, it it exists). I would also advise to lower the damage and the area of effect at low levels (OR shift the mines tree to higher levels OR increase the cast time).

ROFL at the people saying "regulus isn't mana dependent" - you clearly have not ever played regulus.  Regulus is extremely mana dependent in ALL forms - Mark of the betrayer is expensive, mines are expensive, snipe is expensive, wings costs mana at ALL times.  I usually have to go scaled helm / vlemish faceguard / hungarling's crown VERY early on, and even then I am having to port back to base all the time to regen more mana.

If you think he isn't mana dependant you are in denial or you are a complete moron.