Kinsea

Join Date 06/2009

My beast build

Well to start this off, its a build I enjoy and it seems many have a hard time beating. The whole purpose of this build is to have high hps, good AC and massive dps with minimal amounts of money required. It is very easily accomplished and plays very well.

1-Spit

2-Inner Beast

3-Ooze

4-Spit

5-Ooze

6-Inner Beast

7-Nothing

8-Ooze/Spit

9-Nothing

10-Ooze/Spit

11/20- Well its pretty much upto you from here, I normaly go for attribute skills and depending on the game more inner beast, or some into the slowing skill.

As for armor

Level 1 I pick up Banded and Scalemail gives good survivability early

Once I have 1500 gold I get the armor with health/Armor

I tend to enjoy speed so I get Boots of speed next

Once I get 4k after that I buy the ring with 20 hp a second, 750 hp and 8% health leach.

From there if I feel like upgrading I get whatever I feel, but for the most part that lasts me all game. Enjoy what I do, have fun and try not to die.

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Where are you getting the mana for spits wtihout a single piece of mana gear?

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Blade of the Serpent and Essence of Magic are acceptable favor items for mana needs.

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I like the build, but I think you are a lot better off with foul grasp in there rather than the extra 2% attack/move speed. It does cost some extra mana, but many times a stun will be more worthwhile than a spit anyways.

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with such build only experienced players and more skilled ones can play with success. its like double-edged sword, it can turn tides very easily but not sure in which direction.

Kinsea, did u try to take Foul grasp maybe? is there many situations where u need it? like when your enemy tries to flee and its too late but eventually they escape cause u didnt have interrupt?

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Skipping foul grasp for passives (when you should just save a skill point at level 3) is a bad plan.

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try this skill order instead, its similar but has certain advantages to what you've posted

1. Spit 1

2. Diseased Claws 1

3. Ooze 1

4. Spit 2

5. Foul Grasp 1

6. Ooze 2

7. Spit 3

8. Ooze 3

9. saved

10. Spit 4 and Ooze 4

11+. late game development of passive skills or stat bonuses

in general Inner Beast is better in late game situations so its saved for 11+. i felt it important to get 1 point in Diseased Claws early in the game to make it harder for enemies to run away from you. level 2 is the best level for this i think. i also felt it important to get Foul Grasp at level 5 simply because stuns are so crucial.

the build is very good at killing DGs but lacks staying power. you'll end up taking alot of trips to the health crystal.

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I completely support transitive's build. Only time I deviate from that is when I face Oak/Sedna combo.

edit: There are a few other cases where I tweak it slightly, just didn't want to go into detail

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Pretty much I don't require much mana, and yes what I wrote is a base guide in ideal situations. I will deviate from it for foul grasp, diseased claw if I'm playing a smarter team, but sadly most of the time there is no need. I very rarely need to make trips to the crystal depending on the favor item i use. I also tend to keep a few mana potions on me, simply due to the fact my equipment doesn't cost much I have plenty of money to spare for citadel upgrades and potions. The reason I take inner beast is for the faster run speed mainly, most of the time I take it, sometimes I deviate as I said.

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Im not a fan of Ooze so I always avoid it.

Personally I get spit/speed/1 into claw/1 into poision explosion thing/foul grasp.

Pretty much ensure spit and speed and foul grasp stay maxed, get the claw once because -5% speed is decent, then explosion is nice for slaughtering a wave of creeps quick and easily.

Then the rest goes into stats.

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My little pony...

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TheTitan86: The big difference between my build and yours is yours is very reliant on equipment, expensive equipment at that to make it really shine, my build is very cheap monies wise and does devistating damage. If I wanted to spend more money into the build for better equipment it would shine more. As it is though I spend at most 7.5k on equipment throughout a game allowing rest to go into citadel upgrades and potions if nessicary, at level 10 I have almost 6k hps and deal a whopping 500 direct dps through armor (more if the person is not wearing any AC items) which to me is a massive amount of damage.

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Kinsea, I usually get about a full boat load of items and then Im set... I probably spend.... 7-9k on items, I dont rely on super high end items. I play more of a hunter UB, although Ill admit I need to play with ooze a bit more to get a better feel for it...

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[quote who="transitive" reply="6" id="2278580"]try this skill order instead, its similar but has certain advantages to what you've posted

1. Spit 1

2. Diseased Claws 1

3. Ooze 1

4. Spit 2

5. Foul Grasp 1

6. Ooze 2

7. Spit 3

8. Ooze 3

9. saved

10. Spit 4 and Ooze 4

11+. late game development of passive skills or stat bonuses

I use the exact build like this and it works pretty well for killing demigods. I never have much problem with low HP though, having 5k is good enough.

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To sum up:

it doesn't really matter what UB build you use, you'll probably win anyway

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Only difference between my build and Transitives is level 2 and 3 are swapped. Pretty minor thing, I generally appreciate the little gold boost from ooze more than the diseased claw boost. But it is pretty rare to get level 2 kills against decent players anyway, so the difference is likely moot.

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