Suggestion: Make ability restrictions on damaging buildings

I guess the title is quite confusing so here it is explained:

Right now every ability can damage a building: regulus can snipe and plant mines, ub can spit, sedna can pounce etc. In these conditions, the so-called specific building skills of QoT (Uproot) and Rook(Structural Transfer) are quite ironic to say the least...

 

My suggestion is that buildings should not be affected by any ability except those *intended* to affect them. Any other demigod except rook and qot can only damage buildings by auto-attack. This will bring more strategy in team formation and bring back the true role of those characters...

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Reply #1 Top

no, that's silly. rook's ability not only heals him but it stops towers from attacking and rook's is just a utiloity he can use with is own towers too, and QoT just rocks them

so the specific attacks are much better, it works well, and doesn't limit the other demigods to only autoattacks

 

and the true role of those characters isn't to simply kill towers. rook can hold lanes, he can push slowly up, he can take down towers(but so can regulus and tb with ranged), he can scare demigods away with hammer slam. qot is great with support and can keep allies up with shield

 

so basically

 

first - no, it works fine, their moves are better

second - building kiling isn't their only roles, and there are other demigods that can do it pretty well(reg, tb, ub). it would limit strat if you had to have a rook or qot on your team

Reply #2 Top

And not all abilities can target towers. Penentience can't target towers nor can Deep Freeze or Bite. But I wouldn't mind a few more abilities being made so they can't target towers. Not many, maybe 1 or 2 more.

Reply #3 Top

Suggestion: Make ability restrictions on damaging buildings
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im going to have to disagree, teamwork and the tower regen upgrades work just fine at countering this.

Reply #4 Top

I'm just upset Ooze doesn't work on towers.

Reply #5 Top

Ok I dont play queen, but my buddy does and he somehow WTF pwns towers with some sorta damage multiplier skill (UGH can't remember the name of it). I keep thinking "compost" is the name of it or something. Anyway Rook and QoT can pretty much insta-kill towers at a low level if you spec em rightwhereas everone else can do it too..but its slower process.

Reply #6 Top

You're mistaken that Rook's transfer and uproot are useless, both are incredible at clearing towers. On the other hand I don't think removing most abilities ability to target towers would be a bad thing, some of them don't really make sense in context. Pouncing hurts a tower but freezing it doesn't? At least for most of the ones mentioned in the first post (spit, mines, pounce) removing their ability to affect towers would probably be a good thing, as it would enhance the siege aspect of QoT and Rook relative to other demigods and make towers somewhat harder to kill which, IMHO, is a good thing in my book. However the only ability that I believe needs to have this limitation placed on it is spit, it already does great DG damage, letting it do near uproot damage to towers is a bit much IMHO.

Btw queen in open mode can be built into a tower destroying machine, max out compost, uproot, and ground spikes and you can drop towers faster than just about anyone else (groundspikes once to debuff tower armor, then uproot with a full compost bar (which you probably got from the spikes, repeat 1-2 times more, depending on tower strength, and you're done).

Reply #7 Top

Structural Transfer does damage slower than autoattacks at its lower levels (and even at higher levels if Rook puts a few points into God's Strength).  However, it can be used to assault towers along with your creeps straight from the start of the game, because it stops the tower from shooting the creeps -- letting Rook keep the creep wave alive an extra ten seconds while he Transfers, then smack it some more while it deals with the creeps.  Then he can take a few more hits and transfer it again to nullify those.  Then he can just back off for a few seconds and the next creep wave will be there...

 

Also with Transfer IV he gains a whopping 200 health / second over ten seconds for using it.

 

Anyway it seems like they already differentiated some abilities as non-building anyway.  Hence why some don't target them at all.  The ones that do are prolly specifically meant to be able to do that.

Reply #8 Top

You make it sound so simple. How good is uproot if the opponent team own your ass in a fight? Lets assume that one team focus on killing demigods while the other team is balanced and with some siege stuff.

Even if you take down the first tower in the lane on cata a little earlier, what good is it going to do if an assasin hero will pwn your ass whenever you leave your own tower?

Is it hard to take down a tower as an assasin? just wait a few levels and then smash it down. QoT is in my opinion great at taking down towers without uproot so I never use it. I really don't see how uproot can work in my favor. I kill a tower but so what? Then what? The game is not about killing towers, It is about winning.

Reply #9 Top

I'll get 1 or 2 levels of uproot sometimes just to keep pressure on towers.

 

Viras, if a team can destroy the other teams towers they will have no where to run to if you can catch them off guard. They will also be forced to react to your creeps because before long the creeps will be hitting the last towers or citadel. Me and a friend specifically went with creep assist and tower destruction builds against 2 full assassins. It was a pretty close game but in the end we won because they had to be tied up with defending the citadel from the creep waves that weren't getting stopped by their dead towers.

Reply #10 Top

Perhaps you are right, but maybe you won not because you used uproot, but because you upgraded your minions and the other team did not. I have still a hard time to accept that uproot is good. How much damage will you give to a tower if you move in before the creeps and shield yourself taking the damage? Would not suprice me if that was about as much as uproot gives.