state of the game

well, it's still mostly health stacking.

I like the heroes, personally, and having differnet builds for each one almost makes up for their being so few.  At least one new DG is supposed to be coming out in the next month or two, I think.

There are tactical choices and manuevering in most of the maps.  Crucible, Prison, and Brothers are pretty bad (I only played Mand once), but the rest I mostly enjoy.  Cata (and particularly the awkward Portal placement) gets old imo.

My brother (Zamzoph) does very well with the 'blink' cloak.  I've seen a few Reguli successfully employ Heaven's Wrath to gain a significant advantage in early game.  If you think they are unbalanced, just get the more powerful ones.  (The bug on the minion health horn needs to be fixed though.)

Online connectivity has vastly improved since release.  There are still occasional issues, but nothing major imo.

I'm actually going to try DotA soon (a friend of mine likes it and I agreed I'd try a few matches with him).  The community's reputation and the item 'recipes' both make me very uneasy about it though.  (Whoever came up with that item recipe thing should be shot.  It's terrible)

most items not viable except a choice few

This is still the case. 

unoriginal boring heroes, not many of them either

I think the heroes are different enough, but no they didn't add any.

maps leave no room for taactical manuevering

Cataract has plenty of ways to manuever, and it is the most played map.

favor items unblanced

They are balanced, just not all of them are viable, see complaint 1.

straight up couldnt play games online

This has been fixed. If you still have major problems it is on your end.

Editted for truthiness..

I'd say about half the items are useful. Spread pretty evenly across regular items, favor items, and artifacts. Do I use anywhere near half the items? No. For instance, you won't see me taking Unbreakable Boots. Just not my playstyle.

Original or not, the DGs are fairly diverse. Pretty much each DG has at least two buils, some three and adjustments.

As said, it's really only Prison and Crucible that have no less manuevering.

"unoriginal boring heroes"? really compared to what? i thought just about every thing about demigod was vary original. i mean even the creeps are vary original, catapults being like dinosaurs or something thats awesome!

All we really need is a T-rex-ninja-pirate demigod and we're set... although that would clearly be overpowered from sheer awesomeness.

dont worry we will bring in Flying Raptor Jesus for the side of light to balance things out.

I'm confused.  Why did'nt you just update the game with the free patches/updates, and play/try it yourself to see all the changes/improvments?  No body else is going to know if "you" can play online now or not.  Or if you still find the  Demigods borring.  Or if the game has become more like dota for "your" taste. 

@ lugh

Viable means you can choose it in a competitive game, so yes you can find a use for items, but the question you have to ask each time is "Is this worth taking over blood of the fallen"?

I can concieve of a situation where bejeweled goggles might save me from walking into mines and win the game. I am sure that some guy out there thinks its an awesome counter to regulus just because he has a habit of dying to them. Its not out of lack of intelligence to see the benefit that I use BotF instead, or lack of willingness to try new things. Its because they suck.

I am sure you are on of those people who loves to theorycraft, come up with original ideas, try to find a way to make yetis work, etc.  You could debate me for hours and hours on why yetis are awesome, how they tank towers damage, how sedna's aoe passive regen will keep them alive.

Sit down and play me however, and you will get slaughtered.

well thanks for the constructive replies guys, this seems like a good community, although i think ill continue my hiaatus of the game until a future date.

cheers!

wrong! so wrong that i even cannot express it!

well, it could be more but unoriginal and boring? i find them far better as in many other games.

that hurts. this is not a problem with the maps, it's a problem with you.

in what sense? it is impossible to make every item for every strategie and every hero of same value.

edit: there are many dgs, many strategies, many combos where BotF is definatly not the choice of favor!

i never had really problems with that. but at the beginning there was some.

the real problems with dg are totally others. no or not woth matchmaking system, friend system, chat system, teamed matchmaking. a total lack of a mulitplayer infrastructure with is the anavoidable base of any multiplayergame. this is still missing after so much time.

well most of your mentioned points did not changed and that's good.

i guess the community isnt as friendly as i assumed? haha

because they do not agree with you?

ha no because of instead of explaining why you disagree with my points you say something is wrong with me.

The community is a bit odd with plenty of good and bad atm while players find what they like and either leave or stay.

Umm not sure what you were smoking when you started playing but the majority of items can be used. There's 3 helms, 2 armors, 2 consumables, 2-4 trinkets, 2 boots, and a few favor items that aren't really worth taking atm. So I guess that's about 20% of the items aren't all that useful. But what items you pick entirely depend on your playstyle, your build, and who you're playing against.

Ummm Demigod is extremely original in comparison to most other games out there. The back stories of all the DGs are also very good. Once you get pretty good with each DG and you can go with random DG every game without being worried about who you get, then you kinda wish for more. With the way the skills are set up, its like having 16-20 DGs though.

Online connectivity has been hugely improved. Shouldn't have many problems in custom games. But they are still working on something with the skirmishs and patheon.

All maps have some very different tactics that can be applied to them. If you can't see that then it's probably user error, sorry. Maps get even more tactical once you start using team tactics.

Only known OP favor item atm is the Horn of Battle. Sure you may not use the first 4, but those are the cheap ones for when you're just starting out and need or want something. After the first 4 favor items, they pretty much all have a use. It just depends if you your playstyle will allow you to use them with your build.

Oh and dota is very different game. If you don't like DG and prefer a more dota like game, then you can go play one of them few dota clones that are coming out soon.

well, you come here with claims as if they were natural wihtout any explecations yourself. because you asked if anything of them changed i didn't saw the need of eplxaining why i even don't agree with your complains. beside of this it wouldn't be so simple to explain in just a view sentences.

if you were interested in a discussion about such things you shouldn't come along which such claims as if they were a generel consens. and stil i don't see why my answer is unfriendly. but yous post was it a bit. and your reaction even more.

to the reply above mels reply , u are silly. When i left only one crown was really cost effective and about 1 or 2 boots and 1 glove. in fact, i would say that 20% of the items were viable.

Demigod is not original. It is a clone of dota, and you should all remember that next time you say something like " omg this game is totally orignaly dont compare with dota ITS NOT DOAT" because your wrong. It is a copy of dota.

cool. 16-20 dgs. dota has more than 80.

tactics apply to maps with no room to flank opponents and almost no fog of war thanks to towers? oh yeah, i forgot to mention the really sweet bottleneck maps where everything goes in for a huge gangbang. lots of strategy right?

favor items are imba in the first place, as ppl who have played less have less power.

as i said before, demigod was supposed to be the successor to dota. Can you not see that? In fact, demigod should be constantly compared to dota, to make sure its better. Presently it is not better, in any category.

You don't even play, so don't try to act as if you have more game knowledge than an active player.

The only item rebalance so far as been the Heart of Life, everything else remains the same and is still very useful. Let me break some items down for you.

Helms

*Scaled Helm - Excellent early helm

Plate Visor - Useless

*Plenor Battlecrown - Massive MP pool increase, low regen by itself and early game

*Vlemish Faceguard - High regen but slightly lower MP pool increase

Theurgist's Cap - Useless

Vinling Helmet - Almost useless. Does everything Vlemish does plus that random bonus MP

Hungarling's Crown - Great when used with a group of mana intensive players

I can do the rest of the items if needed...

Demigod had its inspiration from dota, it is not a clone. If it was it would be more like LoL or HoN. You've heard of those new clones right? It is in no way just a copy of dota. It has a similar feel of play but overall it is its own game.

Dota has 80 characters that aren't even as deep as a puddle. DG has quality over quantity, not to mention constant support and future updates which already include 2 new DGs next month and official modding support.

After 5 games you can have enough for one of the first extremely decent favor items. Until then you can use the less great, but still nice favor items. There's been a favor reset and we all got to experience how to play with no favor items. I'm still rather low on favor points as I save up for the larger ones. Also you can easily play with favor disallowed.

There's plenty of room to flank and fog of war tends to decrease as game time increases since towers are being killed. The bottleneck map, oh you mean the only bottleneck map call Crucible? Everyone agrees it's the worst map out of all of them. However, it's still fun if you like how the map has to be played.

As I'll say again, demigod was NOT supposed to be the successor to dota. And it should not be compared to dota anymore as it is its own game.

In any category? Oh wait, besides GRAPHICS. 

I never played DOTA but I think I heard someone say that each hero on DOTA only really has one build. In demigod each character has atleast 2 or 3 good ones that play differently. That kinda skews the 8 to 80 character score you are keeping there. Plus modding should be possible soon so we should see that number increase for demigod.

I use flanking all the time in team games. I get flanked pretty often too. 

I must admit that I use the same few items just about every game though, and I seem to favor blood of the fallen as my favor in almost any situation. I do hope to see some more item tweaks because right now it feels like about 50% of them get used.

LOL creeps spawning in lanes and u dont control them, you control the heroes. WHAT DOES THAT REMIND ME OF HMMMMM. are there many games that have that? NO ONLY ONE DIPSHIT DOTA. honestly there is no way that this isnt a dota clone. even if they didnt have "deep heroes" like demigod supposedly had, dota still beats this game easily. Hell, only one guy made dota and a whole company had to copy his ideas, you would think that they could improve on it.

o btw there are multiple item and skill builds for each and every character in dota, maybe u guys should at least play the game before arguing about how much better dg is.

DOTA is a spin off from wc3 tft all its resoures that make dota comes from warcraft 3 maps heroes etc. Without WC3 TFT dota would not have exist. Btw if you like dota so much why are you asking about dg ? Shouldn't you be back to where you belong ? Dota fanboy

I'm Bob Dole and I support Windsys0's response.

If you don't like the game, stop complaining and don't play it. I'm sure the dota community misses you.

Goombo: You wouldn't happen to go by 'Ghurka' on IRC, would you? Your argument is virtually identical.

In any case, same genre does not equal clone. Take, for example, GalCiv series and Civ series. Both are TBS, both have many similar mechanics, but both play very differently.

Oh yeah, DotA isn't the only one, nor is it even the first one to have mechanics like this.