and twas a pleasure noother!

I have mixed feelings about this, all of which I hope will be removed by 1.2.  Of course premmades should play games.  If any of my RL friends get this game, I'll want to play with them most the time.  But there are a lot of rude/sneaky premmades out there that only care about stomping pugs to get a higher rating; and with the Host-RQ exploit, that makes it really bad.

I mean, if your like me, and you just do pugs, and the premades win because there a better team, well, I'm fine with that.  But then if your lucky enough to get a good pug, and you think you just might beat the premmade, then they just use the HQ exploit before you can, and you still don't win.  It really, really, gets to you after a while.

I just want anywhere I can play unranked for fun, and I'll be happy. . .

I'm a pugger and I agree premades are fine.  For casual play, hopefully a team would be up front about it but an in-game stat checker should keep everyone honest.

In competitive ranked play it shouldn't be hard to match teams vs. teams and singles vs. singles. 

Teams vs. singles in ranked play would be stupid.

I don't see a problem with Premades, just a few bad apples. I've played against one dishonest premade who created a honey pot game and proceeds to dominate my team mates and I. I've also played against a premade who were so horrible I actually felt bad for them.

The problem with premades is that even if they post "pros only" or "no noobs", half the time there's still someone dying by level 3, and it's no fun from there.  Way too many noobs out there.  In DotA at least you've still got a chance by kicking noobs and not worrying about the AI feeding even more, banlists, etc.  I might stop playing this game till 1.2, because it's way too infrequent that I actually get a fair, fun match.

Thanks for the warning OP. I'll look out for these jerks and I will spread the word. That just so low for them to make a team like that and play together even if they know each other.

On DotA it is hard to get a decent match aswell... And many people behave as idiots if somebody make a tiny little mistake. I hope here in Demigod we will be a little more sympathic.

But, DotA is better where you kick players. AI's suck, it would be much better without them.

You act like dying is so terrible (and its not especially if you only do it once or twice early...

Dying MID game when you have most of your skills and you are giving them 2000 gold a pop is much much worse..

And even so I've seen several of the best players games listed here where the team that died more won the game because they were WILLING to die for the extra few seconds of keeping the gate near the citadel...

I have to agree with Lugh, dying in the beginning isn't so bad. Can be turned around easily. Sometimes you have to accept that you can't beat your opponents in early game.

Premade teams just shouldn't name a game "Noobs Only" that is actually my only issue with it.

What he  sayd.

Exactly, premades who play "noobs only" are just a bunch of cowards. The game name suits them pretty well.

If you don't like premade, play pantheon or skirmish. Or you can check in the ladder stats and see if they have played together before. It is as simple as that. People who want to play together should be able to!

QFT.

If in doubt just ask. When playing as part of a premade and asked if we are  premade or not, i don't lie about it, and most of the time the guy doesn't leave anyway, he just wants to know what to expect.

I did they said just nothing, and i was waiting since 30 minutes in other games so i just wanted to start. I mean at this poinjt the game was full and all were ready when i oined...

Speaking as a Sedna player, a majority of the time I'm the main target in any group battle.  Sometimes even in a 4v4, when I think I'm safely in the back, they'll just run past my 3 teammates and gank me every time.  So I "will" have more deaths, by far sometimes, than the other players.  Does'nt mean I'm "that" bad of a player; I hope. . .

Sednas just too dangerous for a team, when you attack somebody near towers or under the rook u have to make a frag as fast as possible. Sedna just heal all near her if u attack them not her.. and if u attack a sedna you might interrupt her spel.. And of course sedna is the weakest GD in a team having less hp and armor because buying more mana items instead of great defence..

Ok. Just begin spreading... Ill be famous

I don't have an issue with pre-mades as long as they are honest about it either by listing the game as pre-made or answering a question about it honestly in the lobby.  It's the ones that sneak into (or even host) "noobs only" games or will lie when asked about it that I find disgusting.  Otherwise, people should be able to enter a game as an organized team--just don't lie about it or be deceptive.  Hopefully, 1.2 patch will make it easier to check this kind of stuff before a match begins and for people to play custom games against others with similar skill and records.

just put in a random team option. bam, youre the fourth guy to join a 3v3 and you see random teams you can rest easy my friend.

this. i joined and left 4 premades in a row tonight, none of them said anything in the title. please, i check, im not going to ready up until i know its a balanced game. one of them said "well then get your own friends." thanks. just list premade in your title and i won't join without a team. it saves all of us time.

That's a good idea, actually.  DoW: Dark Crusade had this feature.  I wouldn't suppose that it would be hard to implement.