Please stop complaining about premades (play in team, too), stop complaining about guys that leave or make the game crash when they have lost : you have win dont you ? so what is the problem ? are you playing to have good stats ?

There should not be any stats, things would be simpler.

Me too dislike when game does not finish with a proper 'victory' screen, but the guys used a trick to give up the game : you pwned them and they are damned cowards, thats all : they did not cheat they just loose the game in the most miserable way.

all i got from your post was:

For starters, we were losing. I've got nothing wrong with premade games, but I have something against people who knowingly stack the odds in their favor by lying. The game state issue isn't something I run into often, but for those of us, me for example, who lack any large number of favor, it's an irritant. Win/Loss stats don't mean anything to me, but I'd like the Favor Points, even if it's from a loss. I don't mind losing, but I do mind cheating, knowingly cheating, and playing people for idiots, hence the warning, and hence the 'play at your own risk'.

[Double post]

As I said before, I don't mind if I win or lose, since Favor Points are gained regardless. However, due to that desync, nothing was gained. It happened at exactly the same time the host mentioned 'gg' and I'm highly doubting it was my teammates as I was in constant contact with them and neither were complaining or saying anything towards the idea that they were pissed we were losing. Several of FourHighKing's games look completely screwed up, due in large part to gaining favor points while several others on a losing side are completely screwed out of any points, even the default 40 you get for losing.

i have played with fourking i think and he didnt cause such an error intentionally though we lost!

perhaps it was a 24h disconnect or something. just happened to me.

i dont really know what causes a desync but fourking certainly is "innocent".

I have to say this:

Premades are fine.  Playing with your friends is fine, although that can beconsidered a "premade" team. 

Saying no premade while in fact being one is messed up.  I will join games that say premade and play then with a pub team.  But for someone t odecive others so that they have an advatage is wrong.

well well well... what do YOU call a premade?

Yes, I am one of his 3 supposed cheaters. First of all we were winning, and had no reason to desync the game. I'm pissed it happened and I lost my win too. why are you complaining you missed out on a loss? FYI I think it was YOU or one of your 2 partners who caused the gamestate error IF it was anyone. For the sake of courtesy I'll assume it was unintentional and/or NOT you.

Second, while I did not host the game (or set the name) me and fourkinghigh do not constitute a premade, at least by most definitions. I dont even know trevster, and judging by fourking's chat, he didnt either. While I do occasionally try to hop into fourking's games I do it because he's a good sportsman, an above average player and an all around good guy. I gladly play against him too if someone beats me to the spots on light side. I do not have voice chat, I do not play with him all the time, I DO chat with him about various things other than DG in a game lobby, simply because it's nice to chat. the entire extent of our relationship is that he's in my friends list with 25+ other people I've found to be pleasent to play with/against. I will always choose such a game over random teammates if I can.

So then, do you really think a person hopping into a game on his friend list is a Premade? is that really worth all your griping, complaining and character bashing? In the games I've played with fourking he has always been nice to friend and foe alike... even the ones who suck. Hell, he even offered a GG to you and you turn around and treat him like dirt. The sad part is you probably won't even realize how much of a jerk your being, to people who would be happy to play any setup. hell, if you'd asked he or I would have probably joined your side in another game.

So, go ahead. Warn people away from good and friendly players. Dont even ask us what was up, OR check the games list to see if we're REALLY what you think we are. Assume that any team that beats you cheated. OR you could get over the loss and be a good sport and come play with the rest of us. Up to you really. I honestly hope you can join me sometime, at least if you can learn to be a little more friendly and a little less of a jerk.

trevster is my brother (I sometimes play on his account).  He has no friends list or vent or real-life DG friends for him to ever set up a premade with.  If he has a good game with or against someone, he'll attempt to join that person's game again.  That's all.  Check play history and count how many games they play together vs not before you call premade.

Your accusation of cheating needs to be removed from this thread, in case some mod doesn't read the part where THEY WERE WINNING.

AHHHH THE PEOPLE ARE CALLING!

RANDOM TEAMS PLEASE!

p.s. sorry about the caps.

if this really is his point he should express is in a more... hmm let me say "unjerkish" manner. just like you did.

lordfrodo sounded more convincing to me than OP.

respect ppl, live and let live etc.

although, i generally remove 'no premades' tag from my game if i've played with the same gang for more than 2 games. just kinda feels wrong to have that there if i know that im having the same teammates as before. no critique intended tho. 

Ban the aussie community, we are all one giant ninja pre-made team.