No way! Nerf the beast Right Now! Its way more overpowered even than the original Erebus!!

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Ok ... i think almost everyone knows that how strong the hybrid beast is. I have had countless "double smites" and couple of "Triple smites" on multiplay with hybrid beast. The thing is ... its damage is too high. Ok lets see

assume that beast attacks one time per second, and he is in lv 10 with ooze and spit lv 4.

 

his auto attack maybe 200 dps. and with spit, +150 dps

 

and ooze is 140 but its damage is 50 so it will be 90dps. with  40% attack speed reduction

 

SO level 10 beast against demigod === 200+150+90=440 dps with 40% of the damage from enemy is reduced.

who can beat this lv "10" beast with dps of 440!

Please nerf it or develop a new anti-ub demigod right now!

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Reply #1 from Demigod Forums Top

This is in the wrong category, TB_MasteR.

 

Rook can easily pwn UB at level 10. Rank 4 Hammer Slam does 1700 damage with a 2 second cast. Add in Rank 2 Boulder Roll and he'll be stunned for the entire 2 seconds. Add in God Strength, some towers and shoulder upgrades, and there is no problem.


Sedna can use heal to remove spit and priests for health regen.

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Reply #3 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting Epiphenomenon, reply 1
This is in the wrong category, TB_MasteR.

 

Rook can easily pwn UB at level 10. Rank 4 Hammer Slam does 1700 damage with a 2 second cast. Add in Rank 2 Boulder Roll and he'll be stunned for the entire 2 seconds. Add in God Strength, some towers and shoulder upgrades, and there is no problem.


Sedna can use heal to remove spit and priests for health regen.
End of Epiphenomenon's quote

 

grasping boulder roll isn't that hard b/c grasp is instant. also if the ub has over 6k health which he will at lvl 10, towers wont do enough dmg before rook dies.

Reply #4 from Demigod Forums Top

Honestly, beast hasn't been my problem lately. The more and more I play with pros the more and more apparently erebus is OP becomes. Bite is just to good....

Reply #5 from Demigod Forums Top

Plus Erebus minions are practically another demigod.

Reply #6 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting Cowbuttzex, reply 4
Honestly, beast hasn't been my problem lately. The more and more I play with pros the more and more apparently erebus is OP becomes. Bite is just to good....
End of Cowbuttzex's quote

Agreed, I hate Erebus.  Mass Charm, bite = heal + slow + armor reduction, bat swarm & minions make him tough to kill. 

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Reply #7 from Demigod Forums Top

A good Sedna ownes Beast.

Reply #8 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting ntropy, reply 7
A good Sedna ownes Beast.
End of ntropy's quote

 

then post the sedna build to own beast plz I would love to use it

Reply #10 from Demigod Forums Top

8x Rook towers (which he can have at lvl 10) gives somewhere around that much dps (maybe more, depends on armor I think), nevermind the shoulder turrets, godstr, slam, or whatever else he throws your way.  Is that OP too?

Reply #11 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting Wogrim, reply 10
8x Rook towers (which he can have at lvl 10) gives somewhere around that much dps (maybe more, depends on armor I think), nevermind the shoulder turrets, godstr, slam, or whatever else he throws your way.  Is that OP too?
End of Wogrim's quote

 

8x rook towers require you to spend mana, and time farming towers, and you can't move away from them or you forfeit that damage. So no, that's not OP too...............

 

If you have any more questions wogrim feel free to post them here and I will address them as I have time

Reply #12 from Demigod Forums Top

Spit just recharges too fast early on, if the cooldown was increased, he would be easier to deal with.  As it stands, Oak shield only works on one spit, but then another two spits can be used and do major damage.

Reply #13 from Demigod Forums Top

Spit just recharges too fast early on, if the cooldown was increased, he would be easier to deal with. As it stands, Oak shield only works on one spit, but then another two spits can be used and do major damage.
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priests. dont even waste ur mana on shield just for spit. i learnt the hard way. ask pacov :P

 

Reply #14 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting ntropy, reply 7
A good Sedna ownes Beast.
End of ntropy's quote

it depends on level. later on any sedna would lose.

 

anyway.... the beast is perfect as it is. any "balancing" would simply make him underpowered if not totally worthless. stop this absurd 1vs1 comparisions!


yes it is true that at late game (and not before!) it gets in melee range superior than the others. but at his point its spit is easy to remove/counter and the synergy and contributions of other demigods is at least on par. being an one on one killer does not makes ub overpowert. it is not an 1on1 deathmatch!

 

edit: the only balancing issues i curently see (heros related) are qot and tb and the bugs that are common for all generals (e-g- dont attacking what you command). the rest is in the big picture of the game nearly perfectly balanced.

 

edit2: for an ub to spit so much like some mentioned here it is needed to use quite many mana items (2) which makes ub quite weak aa dmg wise and hp/armor wise. and the aa is main dmg source.

Reply #15 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting CelMare, reply 14

Quoting ntropy, reply 7A good Sedna ownes Beast.
it depends on level. later on any sedna would lose.
End of CelMare's quote

False. Bishops + Sigil. Heaving more than roughly 2700 hp every 8 seconds is not something to be trifled with.

Reply #16 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting abuggeredhedgie, reply 15

Quoting CelMare, reply 14
Quoting ntropy, reply 7A good Sedna ownes Beast.
it depends on level. later on any sedna would lose.
False. Bishops + Sigil. Heaving more than roughly 2700 hp every 8 seconds is not something to be trifled with.
End of abuggeredhedgie's quote

*sigh*

even that will not help on levels after 10 or 12. sedna makes nearly no dmg against a right played ub (that does not waste his items slots on mana to spit like crazy what is sueless against a sedna!). sednas pounce is not enough, and her autoattacks are ridicules against an heavy armored ub with ooz 4.

no, later on an well played ub is allways killing an same skilled sedna in 1on1.

 

edit: you may own with your sedna tactic any ub that spits like crazy but that is not a good played ub! in late game when facing evenly palyed opponents.

 

edit: jsut to be sure: THIS does not make the ub overpowered game wise!!!

 

btw. didn't priests heal every 10sec and not every 8?

Reply #17 from Demigod Forums Top

Original Erebus owned a million times more

He can get monks. He has bat swarm. End of.

Reply #18 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting CelMare, reply 14

Quoting ntropy, reply 7A good Sedna ownes Beast.
it depends on level. later on any sedna would lose.
End of CelMare's quote

Actually, I've faced quite a few good Sednas I couldn't kill, even at level 12. And I'm not such a bad UB player. This includes having Namoth's Ring.

Btw. I think that priests are to powerful, not by much but they are. 3 of the top demigods are generals, and I believe this has alot to do with the priest. I'd reduce the heal form 8/10/11/13 to mabye 5/6/8/10! In 3v3 custom you almost always see 2 generals, or even 3.