Good point... still, I'm not going to complain too much about new content.  Depending on how diverse they go with this, instead of typically choosing BotF, I'll just start picking NEW ITEM 1 to cash in my bazillion favor points.  Might be fun for new players, but no real impact to those of us that have been around for awhile. 

All that said, here's a suggestion.  Recognizing that those of us with alot of favor will simply instantly unlock whatever you add (unless there some undeclared favor reset here in the works), this is a move that's geared towards newer players.  Why not increase the prices on the more frequently used favor items.  For instance, why isn't BoTF more expensive?  It's probably the most used favor item out there.  How about increasing the cost of swift anklet?  Its used quite a bit as well.  If the goal is give people who like grinding favor points more options, that seems like a decent place to start. 

So, hoping to see some new items that are better than BoTF, but not the item that is simply BotF + 100 additional HP. 

I agree that making new favor items, that are simply better in every way is not a good idea. The downside of being more expensive is completely irrelevant. Favor items should be balanced beyond that.

i agree with polynomial.

just increase the effectiveness of the other items we have alrdy.

I think the main point is that each favour item must possess a specific utility value that sets it apart from the others. "Aren't different enough" is right. The lower tier items simply do not give a high enough opportunity cost to even affect decision making.

If stealth was more significant and sight radius was obstructed by objects on the map, perhaps goggle would be of more value. Also, how about a favour item that locks all flags that are in your team's possession for 5 seconds? Perhaps one that blinds a target Demigod (sight radius set to 1)?

I'd start by making the unused favor items more useful before considering the introduction of new ones. Just a thought.

I agree with everybody too.

We need the existing favor items balanced first, and then the new ones.

Better new favor items would just make the existing ones more useless.

Once we have modding tools, we can correct these problems ourselves. Once we reach the right balance, the mod will gain popularity on it's own and, going by what Frogboy has said in the past, it stands a fair chance of being adopted offically if the community likes it.

Do we really want new players to be playing on an unlevel playing field for a longer time?  They are already getting their asses kicked because they have no clue that HP > than all for equipment.

High end favor items serve no purpose but to have a go to item to replace the few that we use now.  At best they'll let veterans beat up on new players for a while longer until the new players 1) leave or 2) get enough favor to get the items themselves.  Favor items should be be equally desirable (pipe dream, I know).

As you children like to say, the favor system as they designed it is fail.  Only the newest of noobs, who imo don't need any more of a handicap than they already have, don't have access to all the favor items.

I don't see the problem with changing over the favor system for two reasons:

1) It doesn't work as originally intended.  Nobody who actually plays this game would want it to, so why go through the effort of trying add "simply better but cost more" items?

2) Its just as easy as what they're thinking of doing.  They want to add new items that are better?  Why not put the same effort into modifying the existing items that nobody uses?  Equal amounts of expense and effort, one would make player base happy, the other would upset existing players and make it harder for newer players to play the game.

If they want kids like you to get to feel uber leet, maybe they should just make all the items red tiger camo colored when you play long enough.

As someone already suggested, one good idea concerning favor items would be they are few different fav item groups that costs the same amount of favor points. For example: ordinary favor items could be set in 3 groups: 1st cost 500 points, 2nd is 1000 points and 3rd is 2000 points. And each group is equally balanced within it self. Assassins & General favor items should have 2 groups only; one cost 1000, other 2000 favor points.

I think that would be a good idea for now, cause some other idea of changing how favor items should work would be much harder to apply, except if we're of course going for  balancing all favor items equally and not by grouping them.

but, what do you think?

This new 'high end fav items' should then be balanced with some of the 'good old items' and put in the best items group(of 2000 points)

P.S.  and i would really like that much more fav items have active ability use in addition to their passive bonuses, rather than having only passive effect or only active effect (but not all that way of course )

I'm not sure what the point of this is.  It won't bring in new players, and it seems like random bloat otherwise.  WE already have a bunch of items that no one uses... if you want to make the game more dynamic and interesting, make those ones better.  Almost seems like this is the 'well, we don't know how to balance, so we'll just add more stuff'.

For my vote, I'd suggest:

1. Balance all of the items to be equally powerful
   
2. Set all favor costs to be the same

This way you can try out items with different strategies, and not merely save up until you can afford the best ones. It also doesn't penalize the newbies for having lows amounts of favor. I'd furthermore suggest that the blood of the fallen should cost 0 favor points. It would give newbies a good starting item to give them a solid starting build to use. This way they won't get lured into using items that "sound" good, but don't turn out to be that useful in the long run.